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THE WOEKS OF PLATO. A NEW AND LITERAL VERSION, CHIEFLY FROM THE TEXT OF STALLBACM. VOL. III. CONTAINING MENO, EUTHYDEMUS, THE SOPHIST, THE STATESMAN, CRATYLUS, PARMENIDES, AND THE BANQUET. BY GEORGE BUEGES, M, A, TKIXITY COLLEGE, CAMBRIDGE.
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blessed,
8
these charac-
good
person
(who
did
know).
[t3.]
Meno.
Nay,
Socrates,
it
is
by
no
means
?
thing
ac-
cording
to
your
habits
their
body.
S.
21
and
in
this
respect
one
if this
seek
what
he
knows
[16.]
boy
thinks
he
knows
of
what
length
is
the
line
from
feet,
and
feet,
and
(above-mentioned) space
to
the truth of the
before,
?
always
possessed
of
it,
he
was
always
a
person
of
knowledge.
But
Ficinus.
They
ought
Meno.
It
appears
so.
Soc.
thing
to
be
taught
or
not,
before
TL and
aXXa. The
train of
knowledge,
things
belonging
to
the
soul.
You
call
virtue,
being
useful,
is
a
kind
of
prudence.
Meno.
So
it
things,
science
;
right
then
do
not;
he
received
them,
and
this
youths,
who
give
them
money
things
I
have
told
already.
go.
Mention
produced
formerly
to,
or
received
by,
good
men
? I
believe
he
had
virtue
themselves,
required
by
d.i
taught,
if
virtue
of it.
good
guide.
they
could
be
found
divine,
whom
we
just
now
mentioned,
the
oracle-singers
and
the
prophets,
and
all
poetical
persons.
it,
picture
than
greater
abuse
of
the
Sophists
was
long
kept
up
by
these
men,
 
teach,
if
any
one
is
willing
youth
to
did.
[13.]
Are
not
then
teachers
the
teachers
passive,
applied
to
per-
[18.]
Similar
sented
to
this.
Should
we
then
be
those
goods
which
we
first
men-
tioned,
appear
they
can
destroy
men
in
such
a
manner,
ignorant
speaks
falsely
? It
is
not,
said
Euthydemus.
the
difficulty
words
you
are
saying.
not
mean
this,
yield
then,
said
I,
and,
I,
by
Jupiter.
[40.]
Why
us at
?
in
these
words,
Ficinus
has
more
to
the
purpose
inferior
which,
whether
making
or
hunting,
clearly
appeared
to
us
to
you
know,
that
if
 
single
scholar,
as
overcome,
at
am,
by
Jupiter,
said
he,
pre-
ceding
question
92
After
of
thought.
But is
matter.
Do
you
strike
this
dog
? And
Ctesippus
said,
your
friend.
And
Euthy-
demus
then meet
happy,
if
wanting
in
the
text.
Taylor
supplied
13
Respecting
the
notion
that
things
are
beautiful
Athenians ?
There
is
not,
in
Aristoph.
N0.
1468,
Nai
val
KaTaiSstrOriTi
iraTputov
Aia.
But
they
will
acknowledge,
all
those
pur-
suits
yourself,
and
not
impose
them
on
your
son ?
Cri.
This
surely,
Socrates,
would
make
a
display,
and
others,
but
are
the
theory
respecting
the
first
element
of
all
things,
called
they
consider
all
these
as
one
or
two ?
TO vvv
TIQ,
things by
reasoning
not
unsuited
for
us.
[8.]
Thece.
It
would
then
answer
well.
Guest.
Come
then,
species
of
discipline
and
knowledge,
and
the
species
relating
to
money-making,
and
contending,
and
See
too
Casaubon
on
that,
which
we
proposed
as
being
necessary
to
find
out.
[13,]
art,
having
been
now
dis-
covered,
that
KO.I
which leaves
the better
as
regards
their
simili-
tude
makes
no
difference
given
for
an
relating
to
Guest.
wages
of
the
youth-
possible
simpletons
in
discourses
about
things
For such
just,
as
being
necessity.
Guest.
Whether
does
it
fancy
that
non-entities
do
not
exist,
in
opinions
and
reasons
be
evident,
as
;
as
extremes,
but
thing,
is
surely
ri-
diculous.
have been
must
not
have
the
moved,
when
you
be,
exist.
impossible
difficulty
now
respecting
entity
conversed.
Thea.
What
impossible
from
the
greatest
necessity,
his
belly,
answer
rightly,
will
adopt
that
?
appears.
species
then,
the
entity
is
many,
27
us
to
inquire,
exhibited
ourselves,
still
exploring
onwards.
25
-a
non-entity,
either
glance,
that
Plato
wrote
dviiirt,
a
word
peculiarly
applied
that,
these,
it
must
necessarily
thing
merely,
but
completes
something
true.
Guest.
But
is
false
one.
Thece.
It
is
so.
Guest.
But
course
ourselves
upon
 
either
a
resemblance,
or
an
image,
or
fancy
making.
We
said,
indeed,
it
a
phrase
in
Greece,
something
present looking
think dif-
ijtvaiv
irvpi
OKOTOC
avp-
fj.iyvvTjTa.1,
in
lieu
Trap'c^ovTOQ
Greek word
/*a\a-
Ki<jQivrt.
drjOeia
blood
62
of it.
other
time
answer
me,
but
at
present
you.
Guest.
Be
write,
of
a
household
and
a
despot
Casaubon,
Schneider,
and
Boeckh,
CEcon.
Athen.
i.
p.
1
32,
it
appears
that
there
certain
calculating
art.
Soc.
jun.
Yes.
Guest.
Latin,
one
By
might
perhaps
recover,
without
difficulty,
the
very
19
[idXXov.
23
To
prove
that
of
animals,
the
even
now
according
that
geese
and
cranes
are
reared,
though
you
have
never
wandered
you
all
these
ques-
tions,
because
the
rearing
same manner
evident
and asses
naturally pro-
what manner shall
generous
42
and
most
handy
of
existing
(animals).
bilia
pecora
numerare
non
decet,
as
state
to
there is an
beginning
the
commanding
very
properly
fear,
is
requisite
to
make
use
of
the
at
one
time
in
one
way,
others,
67
tend
TCIVTO,
not
TOVTO.
71
Ficinus
has
demiurgus
and
father.
Now
at
the
commencement
it
performed
this
duty
more
carefully,
but
at
imitation, likewise,
to
require
something
of
herds
belongs
of the
us,
Socrates.
evidently
an
interpola-
tion
all the
pattern
in
some
other
pattern.
Soc.
jun.
And
very
of
our
cold. And
after
excess
and
deficiency,
in
order
that
we
may
praise
and
blame
7
Here,
as
in
8,
n.
32,
Stalbaum
disappear
the
statesman's
sci-
ence,
divide the art
one word
lain
hid
from
most
men,
that
to
some
things,
could
difficult
to
bisect
these
one
let
us
say
for
the
sake
;
to
ascertain
state
; just
as
no
man
Soc.
jun.
requisite
59
to
govern
without
laws,
has
67
things
different
from
what
ancestors,
such
a
person
should,
after
persuading
his
own
state,
become
a
legislator
violence
called
by
us,
which
is
con-
trary
TI
72
charge
Homeric,
'Ijjrpof
6/io/wc
flij,
which
Ficinus
has
meeting
with
pirates,
and,
if
requisite,
in
fighting
with
long
ships
89
against
sick.
Soc.
jun.
You
judge
something
like
sense,
in
lieu
of
contrary
to
those
laws,
tiam
nactus
at
this,
how
strong
a
thing
a
city
naturally
is ?
For,
though
cities
dition
(of
life),
to
Now
of
these
are
the
military
and
judicial
arts,
and
that
oratory,
which
has
a
share
of
the
kingly
science,
and
does,
by
persuading
over this ? or
Guest. But
persuasion
and
discourse.
ceive
respecting
this
power
aXXi;c.
Plato
wrote
aXXoic
exfy>
a
C>
cer-
tain
marvellous
discourse.
be
friendly
to
each
other.
32
Soc.
jun.
Yes.
Guest.
Let
us
consider
then,
applying
very
closely
our
mind,
whether
this
is
his
MS.
(rvvStra
by
their
names,
distributing
(them)
back
to
their
opposites.
44
Soc.jun.
where.
tp-jrwv.
51
Stalbaum,
case.
Guest.
active,
the
two
genera,
after
they
have
begun
the
phenomena
of
speaking
seriously
his
real
sentiments,
Gamier
and
Tennemann
perceived
To
preserve
however
his
living languages
of the
to
you.
Soc.
Hermogenes,
son
of
Hipponicus,
2
there
is
smallest
case,
as
Heindorf
confesses,
Greek
were
of
things?
Herm.
Entirely
so.
Soc.
Is
tieaff-
would be
Herm. It
names
? Is it not
the MS.
auger
naturally
suited
for
each
(work).
37
Herm.
Entirely
so.
Soc.
ment,
money,
and
But,
since
you
are
not
;
reasoning
take
place
respecting
a
king
in the other
alone,
of
the
Greek
text,
oloc,
a
av
SoZtuv
I
am
greatly
mistaken,
in
rolf
SoKaai
Si
dptTrjv
an
eternal
glory
to
whatever
he
had
determined
to
labour
through
be
used
for
ravra-
Xevaig
or
be similar
to-day,
But
many
assume
them,
as
matters
of
boasting,
97
connected
with
Greece,
considered
those
only
as
gods,
whom
many
at
present
of
the
Barbarians
do
Greek,
Ijroi
TOVTO
\sysi
TOVQ
i/poiac,
which
tpurdv
KO.L
cnroKpivfffBai
sTriord-
[iivoQ.
Besides,
twpaict.
being
with the
Philolaus
the
Pythagorean,
in
the
passage
easy thing.
[40.]
For
instance,
in
the
case
the
gods.
But
they
who
called
it
'ilcrt'a
(Osia),
would
preceding
derivation
of
'Earia
is
a
ridicule
of
those,
whom
Kronos to
[42.]
Tethys
37
is
composed.
fall into
a Choliambic
42
[43.]
But
nXourwj'
(Pluto)
was
the
earth.
43
But
by
the
appellation
Al'Sj/e,
the
multitude
appear
to
him,
For his
thus be
bodies,
but
only
to
have
and desires
them
with
him,
in
be
bound.
52
Herm.
You
nearly
say
of
Demeter,
and
Hera,
and
Apollo,
and
Athena,
and
Hephaestus,
and
Ares,
and
of
should be
previously
in
god-
dess,
78
intellect.
Now
as
being
ftaXXov
88
Ficin.
98
Ficinus
improperly
translates
TO
a'yopaerriicov,
TOVTWV
is
by
rj
iroXei
nai
KvicXti
name
verbs
troiKiXXtiv
and
'Apt<rror\;e
Herm.
7
generation
and
destruction.
31
I
speak
this,
as
having
thought
(novel-
ty)
Cornarius
tie/3dXXovrac
in the
them.
They
conceal
something
like
portion
of
all
nature
which
is
ayaarov
(to
be
admired):
for
became
obsolete,
its
place
was
lieu
of
tiraipi},
where
the
preposition
interferes
with
the
etymology.
47
an
elegant
pronunciation.
[64.]
And
thus
far,
as
we
have
just
now
stated,
the
multitude
agree
with
us,
MS.
either
Si
o
justice?
[66.]
I
think
we
have
not
yet
discussed
Soc. And I
For
in
consequence
of
all
75
things
moving
on,
whatever
is
KOKWQ
lov
(moving
on
badly)
will
;
random.
sz
gz
by Taylor,
ov
?
For
it
exhibits
nothing
but
the
motion
of
the
soul
in
conjunction
with
things
this
name,
it
points
out
what
it
(the
profitable)
Greek,
the
derivation
was
feigned,
I
suspect,
with
the
ovv
Is
T'I
Nor
is
pre-
j?pwc)e
(noxious)
be ?
Soc.
the
cia-
XIHTIC
(dissolution)
13
of
the
body,
which
the
from
oXyetvog
(torturing).
15
But
without
Kal
would
have
been
intelligible.
There
23
[79.]
may
read
caXXurra,
which
is
per-
petually
/3oX)
(shooting);
32
just
again
as,
on
the
contrary,
'AfiovXia
(a
want
of
we
ov
only
in
the
middle
/3oX)
just
spoken
of,
and to
the fact that in a storm the bolts of heaven fall
fast and
what we are
Greek,
 Eouce
 EoiKe TO'IVVV TO
inquiry.
rif
aXqOti
we
may
elicit
something
intelligible
by
in
the
names,
silly person,
;
 
of
division
from
whence
the
imitator
begins
to
imitate
the
letters,
thus
omitting
entirely
ovofiara
tTrtQtivai,
Or
that,
through
their
antiquity
it
is
impossible
to
perceive
their
meaning,
as
is
the
case
with
these
would
be
the
Cicero
Nat.
Deor.
i.
20,
greatly
mistaken,
Trpoc
virepwqv
has
dropt
out
before
cnrfpdfffws.
explain
the
meaning
greater
Let
into
books,
but
into
subjects.
The
passage
640,
name of
me
thus
much.
Does
it
appear
to
you
not
possible
to
speak
about
a
false-
hood,
but
(possible)
pronounce
it
at
night
in
JEgina,
(owe
a
debt);
21
to
a
thing,
similar
thing
to
them,
ending
with
a
p,
ending
with
a
e
have
in
mind,
when
I
pronounce
it,
if
X
is
dissimilar
34
to
the
names,
you
think
;
mis-
take
being
trifling
and
unapparent,
any
one
would
discover
many
they
were
(votes
occasion
53
in
cities,
49
So
Stalbaum;
but
Heindorf
prefers
Buttmann's
avry,
 itself;
I
point
yet
these
Heindorf
suggested,
confessed that
of
believe
'
that
Plato
wanted
either
the
power
;
pervade
he was
time;
16
but
that
was
doubtless
separated,
I
 
will
be
greater
future
in
a
hypothetical
this
appears,
Parmenides,
to
me
any thing,
any
method
by
which
the
similar
would
by
itself ?
You
speak
well,
(Par-
menides)
said.
But
the
species
common
appel-
the master
possess any
ful
itself,
which
exists
really,
by
distinguish
60
all
these
aXXa
roiavra
correctly,
for
they
are
not
only
useless,
but
actually
absurd;
fiyce
TI
bpieiTai
ilcog
tfiov,
Tfpiv
finer
the
myself.
But
why
been
say
possible
for
that,
not
impossible
in
85
For
it
cannot.
r]<fv\iav
any thing,
 the same
be
neither
different
nor
the
same,
either
with
respect
to
any
thing,
or
dissimilar
that
which
to
be
impossible
for
one
(itself)
93
variance with the
be
super-
fluous
preserved
the
vestiges
of
what
was
originally
in
the
Greek,
y*yo-
being
Proceed
still
further
by
being.
How
can
it ?
What
then,
if
we
should
select
from
them,
whether
if
you
will
? And
if
in
this,
how
can
it
be
35
any
longer
in
all
the
parts
same,
through
being
in
itself.
with
itself?
It
is
necessary.
What
then,
is
does
 the
one
appear
to
be
existing
at
the
same
tit),
Trpof
tavTo
fiipof
ov
: which
Stalbaum,
with
Schmidt,
says
itself,
mark,
when
he
explained
Trpoc.
iavrb
fiipof
ovby
ovrta
yap
av
-rrpbc
tavrb
It does
so. What
ever
wont
to
they
this neither
it
be
as
to
be
dif-
ferent
from
the
others,
according
to
that
very
way
46
every
thing
different,
though
not
more
intelligible,
arrangement
of
the
words.
46
Ficin.,
necessity
therefore
belongs
to
the
middle
contacts. For
 
would
and
 
others.
It
would.
produced
perfectly
Greek
to
say
ro
85
So
Heind.,
whom
Stalb.
follows,
things
as
evident,
and
again
consider
if
airtipia.
in
the
same.
They
are
not.
Are
they
then
separate
? Yes.
We
 the one
if
they
were
similar
and
dissimilar,
or
1
possessed
in
sider
after
each of these
knowledge
of
it,
one
nor
that,
Heindorf,
we,
icai
once
wished
others,
itself? How?
y
ilvai
in
one
MS.
altered. It
 
all,
can
neither
possess,
be
freed
from,
nor
participate
in
does not.
similitude
nor
diversity,
say.
others,
ent: or
equality.
true.
[73.]
But
every
thing
which
a
person
can
lay
avra
can
depend,
Heindorf
says
he
.should
have
expected
dialogue
no
less
dialogue
to
(over
again)
to
you,
I
must
do
so.
12
Besides,
for
Boy,
said
Agatho
sense
(Agatho),
will
you
in
some,
in
others,
or
6
Si
OVK
iav,
adopted
by
Bekker,
from
did
not
give
in,
and
iJKtiv
;
the
emptier
one,
The
allegorical
story
in his
has
translated,
doKoirjdv;
words
that
might
have
easily
dropt
out
from
their
similarity
to
TUVTU
ST)
fioi
SoKil
may,
here.
And
yet
the
great-
est
good.
67
For
body
of
Patroclus,
will
lover is more
most
ancient,
and
most
honoured,
has obtained
of Venus was
intervention
swering
and of
money
from
any
one,
or
an
office
in
ihe
government,
terrible
thing
is
what
the
multitude
say,
that
there
is
to
him
alone,
after
swearing
an
oath,
a
pardon
from
the
gods
for
transgressing
it.
5
point,
youth
individuals,
through
compelling,
both
be referred to
of
neces-
sity
24
endeavour
to
put
the
finish
animals
is,
as
Pausanias
just
stated,
to
cause
things
in
the
body,
that
are
most
hostile,
these
things
best,
 
recollection
of
the
Homeric
be
necessary
to
misuse
40
rhythm
and
harmony,
applied
to
mankind,
by
a
person
composing,
what
composed
already,
which
is
called
instruction,
Moreover,
Ficinus
has,
is,
you
now. In
the
female.
ed,
having
in
holy
rites
paid
them
by
game.
correct
Greek.
sprung
the
majority
form,
follow
the
males
being evidently
given.
And
we
were,
together,
it
will
be
a
man,
panegyric
upon
Love,
and
speak.
2
For
6
But
such
he
is,
being
the
most
beautiful.
6
In
points
out
the
beauty
of
his
colour.
1Y
For
Love.
Now
holds
Love,
but
Love
Ares,
is
is
pi
cjnus
has,
'ucava Kal
in TroXXd
8'
*Epwc,
Tlaif
iroQtv,
and
we
might
read
KpaSitjv
ff
be
to
equally unintelligible
version  cum
speech,
48
in
of;
such
things
only
are
by
the
gods,
through
a
it not been
you.
But
as
regards
the
discourse
about
Love,
which
Lesbos,
yet
: for to the tread-mill
ugly
united,
Ficinus
has
very
opportunely,
 Quonam
pacto
me
dixisse
hoc
asseris,
which
leads
to
Kai
Love.
[29.]
But,
said
I,
said
Plenty
and
of
Poverty,
he
is
in
this
love,
see
my
note
in
Bai-
ley's
Hermesianax,
p.
79,
to
to
him,
;
good things
the
whole
of
the
hackneyed
quotation,
94 M
idea
by
his
version,
and
is
his
own,
is
unproductive
of
Royal
Society
of
Literature,
I
have
supported
the
reading
furnished
by
Stobseus,
liv.
p.
364,
in
Thucydides
v.
9,
No/a'(rar
rpia
party yearning
im/nortality.
12
[32.]
All
this
ingly
disposed,
13
applied
do
you
think,
said
she,
Aristoph.
Thesm.
870,
'AXX',
j/jrep
aiKaXXet
TI
perceive
that
edition,
although
properly
rejected
in
his
first,
Creuzer
in
Lect.
Platonic,
edition of Plotinus
do
at a mature
conversation
And turn-
many
more.
M
Ficinus
has
common
origin
in
the
Mysteries.
The
first
degree
was
called
pretended
former
notions,
but,
in
reality,
of
the
completed
mind,
and
not
engaged
seems
a
different
beauty.
S.
s
59
Such
is
the
literal
steps,
from
one
beautiful
object
to
two,
and
from
two
avrov
had
dropt
he
ought,
72
ideas.
Perhaps
Epistle
to
Lord
John
Russell's
meditated
the
voice
of
revellers,
and
 
something
now,
have
sug-
gested,
 Turn calices
me
ridiculous ?
94
?
tampered
with.
Plato
wrote,
I
suspect,
jSyoiv
ovv,
oTTtp
go
away,
I
pretended
it
was
late,
state
to
any
one
say
Bacchic
fury
of
philosophy
thus without its
to
I
conceive
myself.
But
do
you
thinking
of
some
question
from
himself,
39
and
run
away.
[44.]
44
There
are
many
other
things
for
which
a
person
would
have
KO^OI.
Xtloi,
it
the
youth
now

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