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Page 1: State of the TCG Christophe Arviset For the TCG. TCG State of the TCG 17 May 2010 Christophe Arviset – TCG chair Page 2 Technical Coordination Group Technical.

State of the TCGState of the TCG

Christophe ArvisetChristophe ArvisetFor the TCGFor the TCG

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TCG

Technical Coordination Technical Coordination GroupGroup

Technical Technical Coordination Coordination amongst WGs/IGsamongst WGs/IGs

Liaison with IVOA Liaison with IVOA ExecExec

Specific role in Specific role in Recommendation Recommendation ProcessProcess

WG/IG chairs 3 WG/IG chairs 3 years term endingyears term endinghttp://www.ivoa.net/cgi-bin/twiki/bin/view/IVOA/IvoaTCG

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TCG Charter 1.1TCG Charter 1.1

Small updates to Small updates to reflect the comments reflect the comments that had come from that had come from RFC review in the RFC review in the IVOA Document IVOA Document Standard v1.2Standard v1.2 Strengthen TCG Strengthen TCG

meetings organization meetings organization and coordinationand coordination

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TCG F2F #01 MeetingTCG F2F #01 Meeting14-15 May 2010 @ Victoria14-15 May 2010 @ Victoria

1.1. Review and update IVOA top level Review and update IVOA top level architecturearchitecture

2.2. Study main Science use cases for the Study main Science use cases for the VOVO

3.3. Discuss and review TCG organizationDiscuss and review TCG organization

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TCG F2F#1 ParticipantsTCG F2F#1 Participants

TCG - Christophe and SeverinTCG - Christophe and Severin Apps WG – Tom and MarkApps WG – Tom and Mark DAL WG – Keith and JesusDAL WG – Keith and Jesus DM WG - MireilleDM WG - Mireille GWS WG – MatthewGWS WG – Matthew Registry WG - RayRegistry WG - Ray Semantics WG – SebastienSemantics WG – Sebastien VOEvent WG - RobVOEvent WG - Rob VOTable WG – FrancoisVOTable WG – Francois Std & Proc Ctte– FrancoiseStd & Proc Ctte– Francoise Theory IG – HerveTheory IG – Herve IVOA – Fabio and PaoloIVOA – Fabio and Paolo

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IVOA Top Level ArchitectureIVOA Top Level ArchitectureWhat?What?

2 views required2 views required

1.1. (level 0) view for “public” consumption(level 0) view for “public” consumption Global, generic, minimize VO jargonGlobal, generic, minimize VO jargon Readable by all, not too technicalReadable by all, not too technical

2.2. (level 1) view for IVOA and VO needs(level 1) view for IVOA and VO needs Extension of (level 0)Extension of (level 0) More detailed, all IVOA standards mentionedMore detailed, all IVOA standards mentioned Clear connections between IVOA standards (helps the TCG Clear connections between IVOA standards (helps the TCG

review, the inter-dependency)review, the inter-dependency) Shows what is need to implement VO (as a Data Centre, an Shows what is need to implement VO (as a Data Centre, an

Apps developer, an astronomer, …)Apps developer, an astronomer, …)

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IVOA ArchitectureIVOA ArchitectureIn progressIn progress

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TCG

IVOA ArchitectureIVOA ArchitectureGetting thereGetting there

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IVOA Architecture – Level IVOA Architecture – Level 00

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IVOA Architecture – Level IVOA Architecture – Level 11

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IVOA Architecture – Level IVOA Architecture – Level 22

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IVOA ArchitectureIVOA ArchitectureIn action - TOPCATIn action - TOPCAT

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IVOA ArchitectureIVOA ArchitectureIn action - TOPCATIn action - TOPCAT

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IVOA ArchitectureIVOA ArchitectureIn action - VOSpecIn action - VOSpec

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TCG

IVOA ArchitectureIVOA ArchitectureIn action - VOSpecIn action - VOSpec

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IVOA ArchitectureIVOA ArchitectureIn action – Image PublishingIn action – Image Publishing

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IVOA ArchitectureIVOA ArchitectureIn action – In action – Observation Observation PublishingPublishing

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Updated IVOA Updated IVOA ArchitectureArchitecture Including all existing IVOA REC standardsIncluding all existing IVOA REC standards Including all (planned) upcoming IVOA Including all (planned) upcoming IVOA

standardsstandards

Clearer IVOA “Technical” PictureClearer IVOA “Technical” Picture For the publicFor the public For the IVOAFor the IVOA For the WG and IGsFor the WG and IGs For the VO “implementers”For the VO “implementers”

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IVOA ArchitectureIVOA ArchitectureNext stepsNext steps Finalize and write IVOA Note with updated Finalize and write IVOA Note with updated

ArchitectureArchitecture

For all upcoming standards, include IVOA For all upcoming standards, include IVOA architecture showing where the standards fits architecture showing where the standards fits in itin it

(editorial) Update of all existing standards with (editorial) Update of all existing standards with similar change ?similar change ? (side question) we might need a “fast track” for (side question) we might need a “fast track” for

IVOA standards for this type of changeIVOA standards for this type of change

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Science CasesScience Cases Drive TCG work from science requirements Drive TCG work from science requirements

coming from the communitycoming from the community

3 main science cases coming from the IVOA 3 main science cases coming from the IVOA Take-up CommitteeTake-up Committee SED buildingSED building Search by list of sources + search on classSearch by list of sources + search on class VO “Portal”VO “Portal”

Brainstorming sessions and compilation to Brainstorming sessions and compilation to determine IVOA standards required to address determine IVOA standards required to address these science casesthese science cases

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SED BuildingSED Building

Document SED part of the model

SED data provider cookbook (NOTE)

TAP to be used as well ?

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Search by list of sourcesSearch by list of sourcesSearch by class of sourcesSearch by class of sources

Source DM to be considered as well ?

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VO “Portal”VO “Portal” Discussion about the conceptDiscussion about the concept

More a VO Tools discovery More a VO Tools discovery portalportal

Not a data discovery portalNot a data discovery portal Linked with overall IVOA Web Linked with overall IVOA Web

reorganizationreorganization EXEC FM34S-6 on ALEXEC FM34S-6 on AL Site of the astronomerSite of the astronomer

Dynamic list of VO ToolsDynamic list of VO Tools Curation issuesCuration issues

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Science CasesScience CasesNext stepsNext steps Some standards to be finalizedSome standards to be finalized Some standards to be updatedSome standards to be updated New standards to be developed New standards to be developed

To be endorsed by the EXECTo be endorsed by the EXEC

To be taken into account in WG / IG To be taken into account in WG / IG upcoming work plan and reflected in upcoming work plan and reflected in Technical Assessment and Roadmap for Technical Assessment and Roadmap for 20102010

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Validation and Verification Validation and Verification 1/21/2 Two dedicated sessions planned during this Two dedicated sessions planned during this

interopinterop Discussions Discussions about the processabout the process at TCG F2F at TCG F2F

Inter-dependency and consistency of standards Inter-dependency and consistency of standards amongst WGsamongst WGs Normally addressed through TCG reviewNormally addressed through TCG review Now made clearer with updated IVOA ArchitectureNow made clearer with updated IVOA Architecture

Inconsistencies of Registry entriesInconsistencies of Registry entries To be addressed by Registry WGTo be addressed by Registry WG

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Validation and Verification Validation and Verification 2/22/2 Validation and Verification of standards Validation and Verification of standards

implementationimplementation To be addressed by each WGTo be addressed by each WG At next Nara InteropAt next Nara Interop

Special standards implementation and feedback session for Special standards implementation and feedback session for each WG (joint sessions if more adequate)each WG (joint sessions if more adequate)

Each WG chair to look at all existing implementations of the Each WG chair to look at all existing implementations of the WG standards, “learn” from these, and determine if WG standards, “learn” from these, and determine if modifications / improvements of the standards are requiredmodifications / improvements of the standards are required

For the main Science casesFor the main Science cases ““Contact name” from the Committee on Science Contact name” from the Committee on Science

PrioritiesPriorities Regular implementation report in Apps sessionsRegular implementation report in Apps sessions

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Standards into RECsStandards into RECssince last Interopsince last Interop SIAP v1.0 (“legacy” version)SIAP v1.0 (“legacy” version) VOTable 1.2VOTable 1.2 Credential Delegation Protocol v1.01Credential Delegation Protocol v1.01

All three in November 2009All three in November 2009

TAP 1.0TAP 1.0 February 2010February 2010

IVOA Document Standards v1.2IVOA Document Standards v1.2 March 2010March 2010 Including small updates on TCG CharterIncluding small updates on TCG Charter

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State of the TCGState of the TCG Standards in REC processStandards in REC process

Technical Assessment and Roadmap for 2010 Technical Assessment and Roadmap for 2010 to be writtento be written Strong link to updated IVOA ArchitectureStrong link to updated IVOA Architecture Strong link to Science CasesStrong link to Science Cases

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Existing IVOA REC Existing IVOA REC standards - 1 standards - 1

More details can be found on the IVOA Document pages at:http://www.ivoa.net/Documents/

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Existing IVOA REC Existing IVOA REC standards - 2standards - 2

More details can be found on the IVOA Document pages at:http://www.ivoa.net/Documents/

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Existing IVOA REC Existing IVOA REC standards - 3standards - 3

More details can be found on the IVOA Document pages at:http://www.ivoa.net/Documents/


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