Submission doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1003r1 NGP TG Sep. Agenda Date: 2015-09-13 Slide 1Jonathan Segev,...

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NGP TG Sep. AgendaDate: 2015-09-13

Slide 1 Jonathan Segev, Intel Corporation

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Name Affiliations Address Phone email Jonathan Segev Intel Corporation +972-54-2403587 [email protected]

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Jonathan Segev, Intel Corporation

IEEE 802.11Task Group az

Next Generation Positioning

Bangkok , ThailandSep. 13th-18th , 2015

Chair pro-tem: Jonathan Segev (Intel)Secretary pro-tem: Zhou Lan (MediaTek)

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Abstract

This presentation contains the IEEE 802.11 NGP (Next Generation Positioning) Study Group agenda for the Sep. meeting.


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Attendance, Voting & Document Status

• Make sure your badges are correct

• Please announce your affiliation when you first address the group

during a meeting slot

• If you plan to make a submission be sure it does not contain company

logos or advertising

• Questions on Voting status, Ballot pool, Access to Reflector,

Documentation, member’s area

see Jon Rosdahl – [email protected]

• Cell Phones Silent or OffSlide 4

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Logistics

Attendance:https://imat.ieee.org You must register before logging attendance.You must log attendance during each 2 hour session.

Documentationhttp://mentor.ieee.orgUse “TGaz” folder for documents relating to the TGaz activity.

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Patent Policy

Following 5 slides


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Instructions for the WG ChairThe IEEE-SA strongly recommends that at each WG meeting the chair or a designee:

• Show slides #1 through #4 of this presentation• Advise the WG attendees that:

The IEEE’s patent policy is described in Clause 6 of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws;Early identification of patent claims which may be essential for the use of standards under development

is strongly encouraged; There may be Essential Patent Claims of which the IEEE is not aware. Additionally, neither the IEEE,

the WG, nor the WG chair can ensure the accuracy or completeness of any assurance or whether any such assurance is, in fact, of a Patent Claim that is essential for the use of the standard under development.

• Instruct the WG Secretary to record in the minutes of the relevant WG meeting:

That the foregoing information was provided and that slides 1 through 4 (and this slide 0, if applicable) were shown;

That the chair or designee provided an opportunity for participants to identify patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) of which the participant is personally aware and that may be essential for the use of that standard

Any responses that were given, specifically the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) and/or the holder of the patent claim(s)/patent application claim(s) that were identified (if any) and by whom.

• The WG Chair shall ensure that a request is made to any identified holders of potential essential patent claim(s) to complete and submit a Letter of Assurance.

• It is recommended that the WG chair review the guidance in IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual 6.3.5 and in FAQs 14 and 15 on inclusion of potential Essential Patent Claims by incorporation or by reference.

Note: WG includes Working Groups, Task Groups, and other standards-developing committees with a PAR approved by the IEEE-SA Standards Board.


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Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform

Slide #1

All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. • Participants [Note: Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause

6.2]:• “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder

of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents

• “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents)

• The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group

• Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged• No duty to perform a patent search


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Patent Related Links

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All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development.Patent Policy is stated in these sources:

IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylawshttp://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/bylaws/sect6-7.html#6IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manualhttp://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/opman/sect6.html#6.3

Material about the patent policy is available at http://standards.ieee.org/about/sasb/patcom/materials.html

If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at [email protected] or visit http://standards.ieee.org/about/sasb/patcom/index.html

This slide set is available at https://development.standards.ieee.org/myproject/Public/mytools/mob/slideset.ppt


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Call for Potentially Essential Patents

Slide #3

• If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: • Either speak up now or• Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of

any and all such claims as soon as possible or• Cause an LOA to be submitted


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Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings

Slide #4

• All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws.

• Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims.

• Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions.• Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical

approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. • Technical considerations remain primary focus

• Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets.

• Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation.• Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object.

--------------------------------------------------------------- See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and “Promoting Competition and Innovation:

What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details.


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TGaz - Schedule in a Glance

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MON TUE WED THU FRIAM1 NGP

AM2 NGP

PM1

PM2 NGP

Eve

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Agenda Items for the Week• Patent policy• Approve previous meeting minutes (11-15/970r1). • Review CSD and PAR modifications coming from EC and NesCom approval

process.• Generate TG officers recommendation for 802.11 chair approval.• Review TG development process and documentation.• Responding to liaison letter from ATIS (Alliance for Telecommunication and

Industry Solution). • Presentations to inform the TG:

• Continued development of the use case documents.• Problems statements• Channel models

• Schedule teleconference times as needed.

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Submission List for the week

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Document No. Presenter Title Topic

11-15-1003 Jonathan Segev NGP Sep. 2015 Agenda Agenda Deck

11-15-992 Jonathan Segev Liaison from ATIS on Emergency Location

Review and response to liaison letter.

11-15-388 Santosh Pandey NGP Use Case Template Use case

11-15-0030 Brian Hart NGP PAR Review PAR post IEEE-SASB approval.

Edward Au TGaz development documentation Program development process

11-15-0834 Kare Agardh Further Use Cases for Next Generation Positioning

Use cases

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Meeting Slot #1

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Meeting Slot # 1 Agenda

• Call Meeting to Order (1min)• Patent Policy and Logistics (5min)• Last call for Submission (0min)• Agenda Setting (4min)• Approval of previous meeting minutes (3min)• Review changes from PAR approval process (15min)• Closing the call for nominees for Task Group chair and nominees

presentation (10min).• Review and adopt NGP SG updated use case document (30min)• TGaz development documentation (30min)• Further Use Cases for Next Generation Positioning (30min - As time

permits)• Recess

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Submission order – Slot 1

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11-15/1003 Jonathan Segev Next Gen. Positioning Agenda Deck

11-15-388 Brian Hart NGP Use Case Template Use case

11-15-0030 Brian Hart PAR document PAR

Edward Au TGaz development documentation Program development process


Use cases

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Approval of previous meeting minutes

July meeting minutes (11-15/970r1 ) dated July 28th .

Motion:We approve document 11-15/970r1 as our meeting minutes for the Waikoloa meeting.Move:2nd:

Y: N: A:

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Presentations

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Adopting Use Case document baseline

Use case document (https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/15/11-15-0388-01-0ngp-ngp-use-case-template.pptx) dated August 29th .

Motion:We approve document 11-15/0388r01 as our working draft baseline for the use case document. Move:2nd:Y: N: A:

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Attendance remainder

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Recess

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Meeting Slot #2

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Meeting Slot # 2 Agenda

• Call Meeting to Order (1min)• Patent Policy and Logistics (5min)• Agenda Setting (4min)• Generating TG chair recommendation for WG chair approval (10min).• Review and respond to liaison letter form ATIS (45min).• Presentations to inform the group on use cases, process, timelines.

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Submission order – Slot 2

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11-15/1003 Jonathan Segev Next Gen. Positioning Agenda Deck

11-15/992 Jonathan Segev Liaison from ATIS on Emergency Location

Review and respond to liaison letter.


Use cases

11-15/1003 Jonathan Segev TG process TG process

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How long to develop an amendment?

• The number of unknowns when evaluating a project timelines are substantial:• Technical unknowns – channel development, different technical

approaches, one protocol needs to solves several usages, selection between multiple options.

• Schedule unknowns – dependency on other amendments, comment resolution and technical quality of submissions, time needed to develop agreements.

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• How to evaluate the schedule then?• Compare to other amendments – do we have any reason to believe we’ll

do better?• Compare to one or more projects with similar complexity and size.• Extrapolate based • Make an educated guess on size and estimate length based on historical

data progress. • Close the loop and perform sanity check by receiving inputs from ITAs

(e.g. WFA) as to the timing of market demand for products.

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• Risk reduction for process evaluation• Agree on a process that decreases the unknowns and helps to build

agreements amongst group members. The process should facilitate:• A focus on the what we want to solve (e.g. reduce overhead for scenario from

X to 1/10X).• Agree on the high level technological approach (e.g. agree on broadcast

method/reduced unicast/ mix for scalable location)• Focus on key elements of the solution (negotiation, scheduling, PHY element

structure, PHY level protocol details)• Go to greater details (specific messages used, message flow).

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Possible Development Documents

• Use case/usage model document – marketing level like document (UX, without going into too much technical specifics and challenges).

• Functional requirement document – what are the requirements to which the solution needs to comply with.

• Calibration document – channel model specific or selection of channel model subset.

• Evaluation methodology – how to select between competing proposals• Frame work document – evolving document for setting • Draft amendment text

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TG documentationWe agree on development of the following documentstowards the TGaz amendment development:a. Use case documentb. Calibration documentc. Functional requirements documentd. Evaluation methodologye. Spec frame work

Move:2nd:Y-N-A:

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Goals for the Nov. meeting

• Continue with technical presentations.• TG approval for use case document.• Review and approve development process and timeline.

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Teleconference Schedule - TBD

• Oct. 28th 10:00 ET for 1hr. • Do we need anymore calls?

Strawpoll:We agree to the conference call schedule depicted above.Y:N:A:

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Teleconference Schedule

Oct. 28th 10:00 ET for 1hr - do we need anymore calls?

Motion:We agree to the conference call schedule depicted above.

Move:2nd:

Results: Y: N: A:

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Remainder to do attendance

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AOB?

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Adjourned

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Backup

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References


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Some history

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Months between start of first WG ballot and end of last WG ballot

Months between PAR Ap-proval and start of first WG ballot

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Historical performance data

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Stage Duration

11v 11u 11ac [1] 11ad [1] Proposed for 11az

PAR approval -> Approved Standard

64 months 46 months

PAR approval -> Draft 1.0

34 months 21 months

PAR approval -> D0.1

29 months 17 months

D0.1 –> Draft 1.0

6 months 4 months

Draft 1.0 –> Draft 2.0

8 months 6 months

Draft 2.0 -> Final 22 months 19 months

Amendment size 442 pg. 679 pg.

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Study Group Timeline - modified

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Month Milestone / Plan of Action

January (i) Formation meetingInitial discussion on PAR and CSD Presentations on use cases, usage models.

March (p) Continue discussion on PAR and CSDDiscussion supporting presentations.Study Group extension

May (i) SG Final version of PAR and CSDDiscussion on supporting presentationsWorking Group Approval on PAR and CSDPAR circulated amongst other WGs.

July (p) Presentations.Resolve EC feedback on PAR and CSD.Executive Committee Approval on PAR and CSDStudy Group extension

July NesCom Approval on PAR and CSD (July 24/Sep. 4th submittal deadline).

Nov. Sep. (actual) Task Group formation meeting

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Motions and strawpolls as needed

Motion/strawpollTo instruct the use case document editor to add use cases depicted by slides x y z of submission abc to the use case working draft document.Move:2nd:Y: N: A:


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Strawpoll#1

We support the addition of use cases depicted by slides a,b,c of submission 11-15/XYZrN to the use case working draft document.

Y: N: A:


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Motions on submission xxx

MotionTo instruct the use case document editor to add use cases depicted by slides a,b of submission 11-15/XYZrN to the use case working draft document.

Move: 2nd:Y: N: A:


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Strawpoll#1 submission 634

We support the addition of use cases depicted by slides a,b,c of submission 11-15/XYZrN to the use case working draft document.

Y: N: A:


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