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Spaced Out Radio - June 1_16 - NDEs OBEs and ETs with Eugene Braxton__VIWHc4rmlg - transcript (automated).txt[19/06/2019 12:26:48]

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200:00:27,109 --> 00:00:34,729little brother has taken control

300:00:30,460 --> 00:00:38,120shoveling dirt in every hole predators

400:00:34,729 --> 00:00:45,159due to Tim your soul watching you and

500:00:38,119 --> 00:00:48,500watching me misunderstood and so

600:00:45,159 --> 00:00:54,189frustrated a million armies of one have

700:00:48,500 --> 00:00:54,189invaded watching you and watching me

800:01:00,909 --> 00:01:04,719we'll be long

900:01:05,730 --> 00:01:08,969[Music]

1000:01:16,219 --> 00:01:19,328[Music]

1100:01:24,659 --> 00:01:30,989- brother wants to make headlines be

1200:01:27,989 --> 00:01:30,989immortalized

1300:01:31,269 --> 00:01:37,359everyone's got an electric eye we're at

1400:01:34,310 --> 00:01:37,359the Digital spy's


1500:01:37,950 --> 00:01:45,620[Music]

1600:01:53,019 --> 00:01:56,140[Applause]

1700:02:00,250 --> 00:02:07,250[Applause]

1800:02:03,260 --> 00:02:10,670we the people have taken over we the

1900:02:07,250 --> 00:02:14,120people are the tow brother standing by

2000:02:10,669 --> 00:02:23,869to throne each other watching you and

2100:02:14,120 --> 00:02:26,990watching us for attention democratize by

2200:02:23,870 --> 00:02:30,189oh boy your obsessions watching you and

2300:02:26,990 --> 00:02:30,189watching me

2400:02:30,569 --> 00:02:33,569perfection

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2600:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,789every flaw

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3000:03:01,068 --> 00:03:06,969the little brother wants to make

3100:03:02,688 --> 00:03:06,969headlines be immortalized

3200:03:07,770 --> 00:03:12,180everyone's got an elect

3300:03:09,449 --> 00:03:22,250the digital spy

3400:03:12,180 --> 00:03:22,250[Music]

3500:03:38,169 --> 00:03:41,359[Music]

3600:03:50,919 --> 00:03:58,348[Music]

3700:03:55,539 --> 00:03:58,348Wow

3800:03:59,780 --> 00:04:05,580totalitarian state a thousand eyes are

3900:04:03,030 --> 00:04:11,300waiting for you to break let's stay in

4000:04:05,580 --> 00:04:11,300line don't make a mistake we're watching

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4500:04:45,449 --> 00:04:47,509you

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4800:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,789[Applause]

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5500:05:27,250 --> 00:05:33,918let your experience begin right now from

5600:05:32,329 --> 00:05:35,810high atop the mountains of British

5700:05:33,918 --> 00:05:36,288Columbia to you listening around the


5800:05:35,810 --> 00:05:39,560world

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6700:06:01,490 --> 00:06:05,050things that way because it let us

6800:06:09,069 --> 00:06:13,560can we break on commanders

6900:06:14,019 --> 00:06:19,609buckle up space travelers it's time to

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7300:07:13,370 --> 00:07:17,939good evening and welcome to space no

7400:07:15,810 --> 00:07:20,040radio tonight I am your host Dave Scott

7500:07:17,939 --> 00:07:22,800and thank you so much for tuning in and

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12300:09:08,700 --> 00:09:14,730radio many around here have had a

12400:09:12,360 --> 00:09:18,570near-death experience where you've died

12500:09:14,730 --> 00:09:21,209and you get a full-on look on what it

12600:09:18,570 --> 00:09:24,300looks like to be on the other side then

12700:09:21,208 --> 00:09:25,829there's the OBE crowd OBE standing for

12800:09:24,299 --> 00:09:27,359out-of-body experience where


12900:09:25,830 --> 00:09:30,300leave your body even though you're still

13000:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,800connected by some sort of bodily elastic

13100:09:30,299 --> 00:09:34,469that can shoot you back in at any time

13200:09:31,799 --> 00:09:36,359and of course we're going to hit the et

13300:09:34,470 --> 00:09:39,720experience and what it's like to have

13400:09:36,360 --> 00:09:41,519contact from another world experiencing

13500:09:39,720 --> 00:09:44,129all of this is the man known as

13600:09:41,519 --> 00:09:46,439America's most experienced mystic Eugene

13700:09:44,129 --> 00:09:48,360Braxton Eugene as many of you know has

13800:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,560been on this show a few times as well as

13900:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,120he's a nightly regular in these

14000:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,579spaced-out radio chat rooms

14100:09:51,120 --> 00:09:54,769Eugene's brilliance and knowledge when

14200:09:53,580 --> 00:09:57,480it comes to the life-altering

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00:09:54,769 --> 00:09:59,460experiences will change anyone

14400:09:57,480 --> 00:10:01,680we have heard Eugene talking about and

14500:09:59,460 --> 00:10:04,110E's and OBEs on this show and on

14600:10:01,679 --> 00:10:06,120space-out weekend with James Tyson but

14700:10:04,110 --> 00:10:08,460one area that Eugene is passionate about

14800:10:06,120 --> 00:10:11,070but hasn't really talked publicly about

14900:10:08,460 --> 00:10:13,379it is his contact with extraterrestrials

15000:10:11,070 --> 00:10:15,150tonight he will open up about what has

15100:10:13,379 --> 00:10:17,970happened to him with the off-worlders

15200:10:15,149 --> 00:10:20,549are they good bad or just another

15300:10:17,970 --> 00:10:22,500spiritual experience to record and a

15400:10:20,549 --> 00:10:24,899chalk up as one of those little life

15500:10:22,500 --> 00:10:27,720oddities that just seems to be happening

15600:10:24,899 --> 00:10:30,449to those who are awake we bring in

15700:10:27,720 --> 00:10:32,820


Eugene Braxton America's most gifted

15800:10:30,450 --> 00:10:35,640mystic coming in right now Eugene how

15900:10:32,820 --> 00:10:37,890are you my friend I'm doing good Dave

16000:10:35,639 --> 00:10:39,569how have you been you know what I've

16100:10:37,889 --> 00:10:42,419been good I've been a little tired

16200:10:39,570 --> 00:10:44,550lately but I'm gaining some energy back

16300:10:42,419 --> 00:10:47,039after getting a lot of sleep over the

16400:10:44,549 --> 00:10:49,319weekend and now we're already almost

16500:10:47,039 --> 00:10:51,269through this week as well hump day today

16600:10:49,320 --> 00:10:55,470so we're doing pretty good my friend

16700:10:51,269 --> 00:11:00,600we're doing pretty good at that help yes

16800:10:55,470 --> 00:11:03,090the rest does yes it does you've been

16900:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,950quite busy because you're a night owl

17000:11:03,090 --> 00:11:07,620just like many of us who listen to this

17100:11:04,950 --> 00:11:09,390show you're participating in this show


17200:11:07,620 --> 00:11:11,879almost on a nightly basis for those

17300:11:09,389 --> 00:11:14,069people who don't know you from being on

17400:11:11,879 --> 00:11:16,889the radio you're actually taking part in

17500:11:14,070 --> 00:11:18,810our chat room every night and you're

17600:11:16,889 --> 00:11:21,480very enlightening in there people look

17700:11:18,809 --> 00:11:24,299at you with a high regard of respect in

17800:11:21,480 --> 00:11:26,639there do you like being a part of

17900:11:24,299 --> 00:11:29,069absolutely everything not just because

18000:11:26,639 --> 00:11:32,009it's this show Eugene but just the fact

18100:11:29,070 --> 00:11:33,930that you have the ability to command

18200:11:32,009 --> 00:11:36,299that you have that commanding presence

18300:11:33,929 --> 00:11:40,129is what I'm trying to say where people

18400:11:36,299 --> 00:11:44,849look to you for any sort of answer

18500:11:40,129 --> 00:11:46,980yeah I am I've had all these things like


18600:11:44,850 --> 00:11:49,589paranormal things esoteric things since

18700:11:46,980 --> 00:11:52,589I was a kid so I'm fully used to them it

18800:11:49,589 --> 00:11:55,920seems normal to me just like a like a

18900:11:52,589 --> 00:12:00,140football player doing his thing but it's

19000:11:55,919 --> 00:12:04,349fun it's worthwhile and there's a lot of

19100:12:00,139 --> 00:12:06,208people who were know a lot about the

19200:12:04,350 --> 00:12:10,440subject too so it's it's good to

19300:12:06,208 --> 00:12:12,299interact with them on the cat and in

19400:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,279Eugene I fully understand and you know

19500:12:12,299 --> 00:12:16,229there's good people here who listen to

19600:12:14,278 --> 00:12:18,750this show and take part in our chat

19700:12:16,230 --> 00:12:20,070rooms on a nightly basis and it's

19800:12:18,750 --> 00:12:21,659something that they are becoming more

19900:12:20,070 --> 00:12:24,540interactive as we become more

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00:12:21,659 --> 00:12:26,549interactive with them do you like that

20100:12:24,539 --> 00:12:28,949interaction with people even if you're

20200:12:26,549 --> 00:12:30,809not on the show because you're able to

20300:12:28,950 --> 00:12:32,940help explain and expand people's

20400:12:30,809 --> 00:12:34,769knowledge because you're so

20500:12:32,940 --> 00:12:37,950knowledgeable with all the topics and

20600:12:34,769 --> 00:12:41,639the experiences you had your teaching on

20700:12:37,950 --> 00:12:44,700a nightly basis don't you think yeah I

20800:12:41,639 --> 00:12:46,889think especially with what the

20900:12:44,700 --> 00:12:50,009paranormal spiritual or esoteric

21000:12:46,889 --> 00:12:52,470subjects I think that the people who are

21100:12:50,009 --> 00:12:55,679into them or have them don't get to

21200:12:52,470 --> 00:12:58,139express their opinions or experiences

21300:12:55,679 --> 00:13:00,269enough especially with regular straight

21400:12:58,139 --> 00:13:02,490


people who don't have them and so it's

21500:13:00,269 --> 00:13:06,299good when a group of people who are into

21600:13:02,490 --> 00:13:09,000it can get together and then talk see

21700:13:06,299 --> 00:13:12,449what the other ones bent into or pick

21800:13:09,000 --> 00:13:14,100each other's brains and it's you know

21900:13:12,450 --> 00:13:17,490and spaced out ready it's done in a

22000:13:14,100 --> 00:13:20,100friendly goodwill way where you uh you

22100:13:17,490 --> 00:13:23,459really learn and come off better at the

22200:13:20,100 --> 00:13:26,370end of the at the end of the show it's

22300:13:23,458 --> 00:13:29,699so it's a good way to interact and see

22400:13:26,370 --> 00:13:32,039what other people have experienced and

22500:13:29,700 --> 00:13:34,740and think about certain things because

22600:13:32,039 --> 00:13:36,689of the normal people are really smart

22700:13:34,740 --> 00:13:38,370that regular citizens way smarter than

22800:13:36,690 --> 00:13:42,260like the government or Hollywood may


22900:13:38,370 --> 00:13:45,659give them credit for so I like to listen

23000:13:42,259 --> 00:13:48,028to what people think today and have been

23100:13:45,659 --> 00:13:50,179through yeah because it's some people

23200:13:48,028 --> 00:13:52,439having some deep experiences out there

23300:13:50,179 --> 00:13:54,329right on

23400:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,890mmm-hmm when it comes to those deep

23500:13:54,330 --> 00:14:03,440experiences is there anything that

23600:13:55,889 --> 00:14:06,720really surprises you anymore Eugene yeah

23700:14:03,440 --> 00:14:11,100there's a lot of things in ufology that

23800:14:06,720 --> 00:14:16,440surprised me that's like a this ever

23900:14:11,100 --> 00:14:18,300expanding experience you know spiritual

24000:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,370experience and so that's one of the

24100:14:18,299 --> 00:14:22,349things that surprises me and human

24200:14:20,370 --> 00:14:24,779behavior is another thing we see on the


24300:14:22,350 --> 00:14:28,139news these people going wild you know

24400:14:24,779 --> 00:14:34,259eating each other and bombing each other

24500:14:28,139 --> 00:14:37,259but esoteric why's the UFO thing is

24600:14:34,259 --> 00:14:40,189really big for me now and so it's the

24700:14:37,259 --> 00:14:42,870near-death those two things there's

24800:14:40,190 --> 00:14:49,380there's so much to that field haunted

24900:14:42,870 --> 00:14:53,370houses out of bodies the Bigfoot I think

25000:14:49,379 --> 00:14:55,439all of those things are connected and

25100:14:53,370 --> 00:14:58,740interconnected some more than others I

25200:14:55,440 --> 00:15:01,200think they're all part of God's

25300:14:58,740 --> 00:15:04,379paranormal mentioned different wings in

25400:15:01,200 --> 00:15:06,270his mansion that's how I see them and in

25500:15:04,379 --> 00:15:11,039a lot of ways that's how they seem to be

25600:15:06,269 --> 00:15:13,319connected you know there is such a

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00:15:11,039 --> 00:15:15,959spiritual side to absolutely everything

25800:15:13,320 --> 00:15:18,390that goes on and there's so many more

25900:15:15,960 --> 00:15:20,519questions than answers and people have

26000:15:18,389 --> 00:15:22,139often asked me with my own experiences

26100:15:20,519 --> 00:15:25,949whether it's been extraterrestrial

26200:15:22,139 --> 00:15:27,509Bigfoot paranormal they always say have

26300:15:25,950 --> 00:15:31,410you been able to find that answer that

26400:15:27,509 --> 00:15:34,620you need have you been able to to itch

26500:15:31,409 --> 00:15:36,240that scratch that you have and/or

26600:15:34,620 --> 00:15:38,820scratch that itch that you have pardon

26700:15:36,240 --> 00:15:41,279my my mixing up the words there you know

26800:15:38,820 --> 00:15:44,550but one of the things that I always say

26900:15:41,279 --> 00:15:47,069back is no because the reason why is

27000:15:44,549 --> 00:15:50,549when you have one experience no matter

27100:15:47,070 --> 00:15:54,060


how big or how small that one experience

27200:15:50,549 --> 00:15:56,099opens up a thousand questions it's like

27300:15:54,059 --> 00:15:58,619when you open it's like when you open up

27400:15:56,100 --> 00:16:01,080a door and on the other side of that

27500:15:58,620 --> 00:16:02,759doors and other ten doors and on each

27600:16:01,080 --> 00:16:05,940one of those ten doors you open those

27700:16:02,759 --> 00:16:08,819doors up there's another 10 to 20 doors

27800:16:05,940 --> 00:16:11,550after them and it gets ridiculous and

27900:16:08,820 --> 00:16:14,910it's frustrating and it's mind-boggling

28000:16:11,549 --> 00:16:17,669and you know I can see where people go

28100:16:14,909 --> 00:16:22,289crazy over this stuff because there just

28200:16:17,669 --> 00:16:24,509isn't the answers that are out there we

28300:16:22,289 --> 00:16:27,329can talk to people such as yourself or

28400:16:24,509 --> 00:16:30,179listen to radio programs like this or we

28500:16:27,330 --> 00:16:33,509can not hear what the government knows


28600:16:30,179 --> 00:16:36,120or science knows or a combination of

28700:16:33,509 --> 00:16:38,700both and that's not even including view

28800:16:36,120 --> 00:16:41,340gene the disinformation groups out there

28900:16:38,700 --> 00:16:42,770that are pumping things up so I could

29000:16:41,340 --> 00:16:45,120see where a lot of people get very

29100:16:42,769 --> 00:16:48,649frustrated with this how do you deal

29200:16:45,120 --> 00:16:56,730with not being able to get frustrated I

29300:16:48,649 --> 00:17:05,609feel that just like you said this like

29400:16:56,730 --> 00:17:09,269what this field that we study it's it's

29500:17:05,609 --> 00:17:12,029the questions are so spine-tingling that

29600:17:09,269 --> 00:17:14,400you get addicted to find any answers

29700:17:12,029 --> 00:17:17,099just like in that close encounters thing

29800:17:14,400 --> 00:17:19,050where Richard Dreyfuss was building that

29900:17:17,099 --> 00:17:21,179mound of clay in this living room


30000:17:19,049 --> 00:17:25,049you almost it becomes like an obsession

30100:17:21,180 --> 00:17:28,140a good one and a clean one but the

30200:17:25,049 --> 00:17:29,279paranormal becomes an obsession and some

30300:17:28,140 --> 00:17:31,290of the things especially like the

30400:17:29,279 --> 00:17:35,579ufology for me it's like sticks to you

30500:17:31,289 --> 00:17:36,960and you it it's a heavier like a spirit

30600:17:35,579 --> 00:17:40,230it sticks to your counter like a

30700:17:36,960 --> 00:17:44,059spiritual tar and not necessarily in a

30800:17:40,230 --> 00:17:46,230bad way but some of those esoteric

30900:17:44,059 --> 00:17:49,049disciplines when you get into them and

31000:17:46,230 --> 00:17:52,650wrap your head inside out of them and

31100:17:49,049 --> 00:17:55,409then yeah you absorb some of it too and

31200:17:52,650 --> 00:17:58,320like with the UFO thing for me and a

31300:17:55,410 --> 00:18:02,150little bit the near-death it just you

314


00:17:58,319 --> 00:18:04,980have to detach yourself away from it but

31500:18:02,150 --> 00:18:06,990just for every question there's always

31600:18:04,980 --> 00:18:08,370an answer somewhere and a lot of times

31700:18:06,990 --> 00:18:10,920the answer will lie right inside the

31800:18:08,369 --> 00:18:12,299person themself like that you know the

31900:18:10,920 --> 00:18:16,230more you want to know something the

32000:18:12,299 --> 00:18:19,769answer will be forced into your life

32100:18:16,230 --> 00:18:22,799it's nowadays it's like

32200:18:19,769 --> 00:18:25,349not any question but almost anything any

32300:18:22,799 --> 00:18:27,000question can be made known not every

32400:18:25,349 --> 00:18:28,759question but almost any question you

32500:18:27,000 --> 00:18:31,920know we have access to a lot of

32600:18:28,759 --> 00:18:34,049information with this new technology and

32700:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,670there's a lot of things it's I feel sad

32800:18:34,049 --> 00:18:38,549


when I see kids in the library or the

32900:18:35,670 --> 00:18:40,740for university playing card solitaire

33000:18:38,549 --> 00:18:42,599and stuff on the computer and there's

33100:18:40,740 --> 00:18:45,210loads of other things they could be

33200:18:42,599 --> 00:18:46,678doing like the other students but the

33300:18:45,210 --> 00:18:50,009answers are all out there

33400:18:46,679 --> 00:18:52,920and they're found in the truth you know

33500:18:50,009 --> 00:18:54,390but where does one you know Eugene that

33600:18:52,920 --> 00:18:57,120leads to another question where does one

33700:18:54,390 --> 00:18:58,890look for the truth because as we have

33800:18:57,119 --> 00:19:01,709stated there's a lot of disinformation

33900:18:58,890 --> 00:19:04,550out there the government is silent there

34000:19:01,710 --> 00:19:08,519are so many differing opinions on

34100:19:04,549 --> 00:19:10,919paranormal ghost hunting let alone throw

34200:19:08,519 --> 00:19:14,460in Bigfoot or extraterrestrials or dog


34300:19:10,920 --> 00:19:17,160man or demons I mean heaven forbid if we

34400:19:14,460 --> 00:19:19,319all of a sudden have to understand the

34500:19:17,160 --> 00:19:22,230whole concept that everyone does have

34600:19:19,319 --> 00:19:24,119psychic ability because everybody is so

34700:19:22,230 --> 00:19:25,380set in their ways whether it's the way

34800:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,359they were brought up whether it's

34900:19:25,380 --> 00:19:29,700because of religion whether they're anti

35000:19:27,359 --> 00:19:34,199religion there's so many different ways

35100:19:29,700 --> 00:19:36,960out there for people to think that it's

35200:19:34,200 --> 00:19:40,100hard to find the truth especially now

35300:19:36,960 --> 00:19:42,929Eugene when you throw in a 24-hour

35400:19:40,099 --> 00:19:46,349society where everybody is looking down

35500:19:42,929 --> 00:19:48,390at a cellphone rather than looking up to

35600:19:46,349 --> 00:19:52,859the stars or looking inside themselves


35700:19:48,390 --> 00:19:55,140to find the truth yes yes yeah the

35800:19:52,859 --> 00:19:57,659technology of things is too much because

35900:19:55,140 --> 00:19:59,670you can get overworked with that and

36000:19:57,660 --> 00:20:01,380just like you said everywhere they do it

36100:19:59,670 --> 00:20:02,970here in Philly - everyone has their

36200:20:01,380 --> 00:20:04,470heads down looking into the cell phone

36300:20:02,970 --> 00:20:08,819like we're talking to the President or

36400:20:04,470 --> 00:20:11,370the Prime Minister and and also like you

36500:20:08,819 --> 00:20:14,039said to the real things can always be

36600:20:11,369 --> 00:20:17,279found right inside the person the real

36700:20:14,039 --> 00:20:20,279answer is the real truth and a lot has

36800:20:17,279 --> 00:20:22,859to do with the feeling how perceptive

36900:20:20,279 --> 00:20:24,750they are to themselves into the world

37000:20:22,859 --> 00:20:27,899you kind of have to shut the world out

371


00:20:24,750 --> 00:20:29,250and you don't want to be too perceptive

37200:20:27,900 --> 00:20:31,220to yourself you don't want to over

37300:20:29,250 --> 00:20:33,089analyze yourself and stuff like that but

37400:20:31,220 --> 00:20:34,470you just have to

37500:20:33,089 --> 00:20:37,619there's certain point just closed off

37600:20:34,470 --> 00:20:39,360the world especially if it starts to

37700:20:37,619 --> 00:20:42,748affect you too much and people like us

37800:20:39,359 --> 00:20:46,048in this field we're sensitive to a lot

37900:20:42,749 --> 00:20:47,759of things and that extra interference

38000:20:46,048 --> 00:20:49,230doesn't help so it's good good look I

38100:20:47,759 --> 00:20:53,429don't even watch the news anymore

38200:20:49,230 --> 00:20:55,499I just turned that off because it's just

38300:20:53,429 --> 00:20:56,909too negative all the time and you know

38400:20:55,499 --> 00:20:58,429we have enough on that back so it's good

38500:20:56,909 --> 00:21:00,899


to close some of that stuff out

38600:20:58,429 --> 00:21:04,019sometimes it's good to focus on just a

38700:21:00,898 --> 00:21:05,819few single things and because this like

38800:21:04,019 --> 00:21:07,919you said it's like a whirlwind of things

38900:21:05,819 --> 00:21:12,298to get into just in this field around of

39000:21:07,919 --> 00:21:15,690the esoteric and it's good to have a few

39100:21:12,298 --> 00:21:17,460prime things but with as far as finding

39200:21:15,690 --> 00:21:19,710that knowledge and stuff like that and

39300:21:17,460 --> 00:21:23,159the truth I would start I would always

39400:21:19,710 --> 00:21:28,919start with my own family if they had any

39500:21:23,159 --> 00:21:33,539kind of holy book or religion to check

39600:21:28,919 --> 00:21:36,419that out to check out any kind of

39700:21:33,538 --> 00:21:39,288professors who like study that field or

39800:21:36,419 --> 00:21:42,629artist or regular people who musicians

39900:21:39,288 --> 00:21:44,128who might know about that so I would try


40000:21:42,628 --> 00:21:47,248to get a mix of the regular people and

40100:21:44,128 --> 00:21:48,778the professionals but I would also go

40200:21:47,249 --> 00:21:50,519back and look at all the old-time

40300:21:48,778 --> 00:21:51,720scholars in those fields in the

40400:21:50,519 --> 00:21:56,308paranormal field because they were

40500:21:51,720 --> 00:22:00,058really deep like a rudolf steiner he was

40600:21:56,308 --> 00:22:03,178a good one from 1905 and the sweden berg

40700:22:00,058 --> 00:22:05,638and this each each race has their own

40800:22:03,179 --> 00:22:07,048heavyweight giant so it's good to go

40900:22:05,638 --> 00:22:09,538back to almost the further you go back

41000:22:07,048 --> 00:22:12,868it's a pyramid on or --ml you can learn

41100:22:09,538 --> 00:22:14,490a lot from those old masters but it's a

41200:22:12,868 --> 00:22:15,928person who really wants an answer or

41300:22:14,490 --> 00:22:18,419something they'll get it they just have


41400:22:15,929 --> 00:22:20,129to ask the right question and my

41500:22:18,419 --> 00:22:22,710question was I wanted to know everything

41600:22:20,128 --> 00:22:25,740that happened psychically in this world

41700:22:22,710 --> 00:22:27,720and in the invisible worlds and two

41800:22:25,740 --> 00:22:30,929years after I asked that God started to

41900:22:27,720 --> 00:22:34,710show me all those things and he still is

42000:22:30,929 --> 00:22:38,220showing me but you can do a lot these

42100:22:34,710 --> 00:22:39,899days especially with the mind and with

42200:22:38,220 --> 00:22:43,860God you put those two things together

42300:22:39,898 --> 00:22:46,609you can accomplish a lot about answered

42400:22:43,859 --> 00:22:46,609the question do

42500:22:51,420 --> 00:22:58,060when it yeah Eugene when would you

42600:22:55,990 --> 00:23:00,579mention how you have to trust your faith

42700:22:58,059 --> 00:23:03,789you have to trust in God I believe you

428


00:23:00,579 --> 00:23:07,269you in that but you take a country like

42900:23:03,789 --> 00:23:09,430Canada where I am and we have become so

43000:23:07,269 --> 00:23:11,859multicultural with different religions

43100:23:09,430 --> 00:23:14,140in this country now and not that there's

43200:23:11,859 --> 00:23:16,299anything wrong with that but a main

43300:23:14,140 --> 00:23:20,020portion of the society has become very

43400:23:16,299 --> 00:23:22,119agnostic if not atheist then in the

43500:23:20,019 --> 00:23:22,779United States we see this happening as

43600:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,219well

43700:23:22,779 --> 00:23:26,529because we're not allowed to be

43800:23:24,220 --> 00:23:29,529politically correct it's almost you know

43900:23:26,529 --> 00:23:31,210anti human now to say that you have any

44000:23:29,529 --> 00:23:33,609sort of Christian belief and I'm not

44100:23:31,210 --> 00:23:35,740trying to bring in any religious debate

44200:23:33,609 --> 00:23:38,319


here but there's a lot of people who

44300:23:35,740 --> 00:23:40,539have a hard time believing in today's

44400:23:38,319 --> 00:23:43,480day and age that seeing how ugly the

44500:23:40,539 --> 00:23:46,329world is that God truly exists and that

44600:23:43,480 --> 00:23:50,230there is some sort of higher entity or

44700:23:46,329 --> 00:23:51,909higher power that has caused creation

44800:23:50,230 --> 00:23:55,420has caused you know absolutely

44900:23:51,910 --> 00:23:58,240everything that is going on so when you

45000:23:55,420 --> 00:24:01,230mention the faith part in it how do you

45100:23:58,240 --> 00:24:05,680win someone over to believe in that when

45200:24:01,230 --> 00:24:07,509they can barely understand what is going

45300:24:05,680 --> 00:24:11,200on because what they are seeing on TV

45400:24:07,509 --> 00:24:14,410every night isn't the most pleasant yeah

45500:24:11,200 --> 00:24:16,330a lot of it I could see where a lot of

45600:24:14,410 --> 00:24:18,040people would be turned off especially


45700:24:16,329 --> 00:24:22,379with the priest doing their thing and

45800:24:18,039 --> 00:24:29,200and all the other madness in the world

45900:24:22,380 --> 00:24:34,240but with the faith I was saying that the

46000:24:29,200 --> 00:24:38,529person should check out the holy books

46100:24:34,240 --> 00:24:41,109or religious traditions of their their

46200:24:38,529 --> 00:24:43,629grace and see if they have any answers

46300:24:41,109 --> 00:24:45,609I'm not saying adhere to them but I'm

46400:24:43,630 --> 00:24:46,750saying that on the way to the path of

46500:24:45,609 --> 00:24:48,879higher knowledge they should definitely

46600:24:46,750 --> 00:24:51,730check out and see what the religious

46700:24:48,880 --> 00:24:54,700book says because they're not all dumb

46800:24:51,730 --> 00:24:57,339those holy books and each group has each

46900:24:54,700 --> 00:25:00,340group has theirs especially the main

47000:24:57,339 --> 00:25:02,769three Muslim Christian and Hewitt


47100:25:00,339 --> 00:25:05,769so they should definitely start there if

47200:25:02,769 --> 00:25:08,470they want to go in that spiritual mystic

47300:25:05,769 --> 00:25:10,150psychic path because there's a lot of

47400:25:08,470 --> 00:25:11,620spiritual knowledge in those they

47500:25:10,150 --> 00:25:12,670shouldn't be just thrown away and like

47600:25:11,619 --> 00:25:14,949you said a lot of people are getting

47700:25:12,670 --> 00:25:17,080away from God but and that's the reason

47800:25:14,950 --> 00:25:19,720why a lot of these mysteries haven't

47900:25:17,079 --> 00:25:21,819been unknown because once you link up

48000:25:19,720 --> 00:25:24,880with that ultimate source ultimate power

48100:25:21,819 --> 00:25:26,559then you can easily do this find out all

48200:25:24,880 --> 00:25:29,770those kind of questions because you have

48300:25:26,559 --> 00:25:32,109access to a main like computer bank or

48400:25:29,769 --> 00:25:34,629library and you can get that access

485


00:25:32,109 --> 00:25:38,259immediately that's what the Mystics is

48600:25:34,630 --> 00:25:40,480all about getting knowledge immediately

48700:25:38,259 --> 00:25:41,109or in insight immediately from God

48800:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,500directly

48900:25:41,109 --> 00:25:47,169and so those mysteries can be easily

49000:25:44,500 --> 00:25:49,119unraveled when you have a super help or

49100:25:47,170 --> 00:25:51,610helping you these days it does sound

49200:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,859corny to talk about God but he's the one

49300:25:51,609 --> 00:25:59,139thing at least with me power that's

49400:25:53,859 --> 00:26:02,349never ever ever let me down and so

49500:25:59,140 --> 00:26:04,870people forget you know the god of their

49600:26:02,349 --> 00:26:07,509youth who helped them stay alive to this

49700:26:04,869 --> 00:26:08,889day and but they cry out to them you

49800:26:07,509 --> 00:26:11,650know when their parents are in the

49900:26:08,890 --> 00:26:14,080


hospital sick it's funny the back

50000:26:11,650 --> 00:26:16,540turning and then flip-flopping that

50100:26:14,079 --> 00:26:18,159people do with God and you know he's

50200:26:16,539 --> 00:26:21,039helped them up so many many times

50300:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,600someone like me I've died and was

50400:26:21,039 --> 00:26:24,549literally brought back to life so I have

50500:26:22,599 --> 00:26:27,039a firm belief in God because I've

50600:26:24,549 --> 00:26:29,289experienced it but they say the ones who

50700:26:27,039 --> 00:26:34,269don't believe are just closed off to

50800:26:29,289 --> 00:26:37,809that side anyway the belief in something

50900:26:34,269 --> 00:26:42,220especially something super high opens up

51000:26:37,809 --> 00:26:43,779all those doors so that the people who

51100:26:42,220 --> 00:26:46,870are and they're like that is a movement

51200:26:43,779 --> 00:26:49,690underway in a lot of ways to discount

51300:26:46,869 --> 00:26:51,429God from not just a paranormal from


51400:26:49,690 --> 00:26:53,140anything that's the worst mistake you

51500:26:51,430 --> 00:26:55,060can make that's the worst kind of

51600:26:53,140 --> 00:26:57,910protection you can lose because there's

51700:26:55,059 --> 00:27:00,099a lot in that paranormal realm that's

51800:26:57,910 --> 00:27:02,500God's realm there's a lot to deal with

51900:27:00,099 --> 00:27:04,179where you need a whole shield or else

52000:27:02,500 --> 00:27:07,119like I said you will go over the edge

52100:27:04,180 --> 00:27:09,730and those that's just from dealing it in

52200:27:07,119 --> 00:27:11,769a conscious way you start dealing with

52300:27:09,730 --> 00:27:13,990those that spiritual realms in the

52400:27:11,769 --> 00:27:16,029unconscious way or out-of-body

52500:27:13,990 --> 00:27:19,120and you don't have a spiritual anchor a

52600:27:16,029 --> 00:27:21,549backup who's in who's from that realm

52700:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,058why God is you will be in some deep


52800:27:21,549 --> 00:27:23,859trouble

52900:27:22,058 --> 00:27:25,839and open to all kinds of tech I think

53000:27:23,859 --> 00:27:27,428Eric was kind of mentioning something

53100:27:25,839 --> 00:27:31,209like that yesterday but you need in that

53200:27:27,429 --> 00:27:34,360world a full shield a full armor of God

53300:27:31,210 --> 00:27:36,039and that's the one power that you have

53400:27:34,359 --> 00:27:42,490that you couldn't navigate that you know

53500:27:36,039 --> 00:27:45,909all kinds of things go and we just seem

53600:27:42,490 --> 00:27:47,589to lose Eugene here on skype so I'm

53700:27:45,910 --> 00:27:50,050gonna bring him right back here one

53800:27:47,589 --> 00:27:52,029second here as we are talking with

53900:27:50,049 --> 00:27:54,720Eugene Braxton tonight on spaced out

54000:27:52,029 --> 00:27:57,129radio he is known as America's most

54100:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,660experienced mystic you probably hear the

542


00:27:57,130 --> 00:28:01,960phone ringing hey Dave

54300:27:58,660 --> 00:28:04,870there we go connected yes we are running

54400:28:01,960 --> 00:28:08,170we were talking about the experience

54500:28:04,869 --> 00:28:12,969about trying to find that belief in

54600:28:08,170 --> 00:28:15,580oneself and the higher power yeah you've

54700:28:12,970 --> 00:28:18,579got to have God in it if it's about the

54800:28:15,579 --> 00:28:21,730spiritual he is the spiritual so it's

54900:28:18,579 --> 00:28:24,159foolish to not include the maker in the

55000:28:21,730 --> 00:28:25,870controller of all of that in in with you

55100:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,360someone who can keep you safe because

55200:28:25,869 --> 00:28:31,689the person cannot keep them safe their

55300:28:28,359 --> 00:28:34,779own self safe here in this world let

55400:28:31,690 --> 00:28:36,929alone the astral world which they know

55500:28:34,779 --> 00:28:39,940little about you know all humans

55600:28:36,929 --> 00:28:43,600


compared to God so he's the one you can

55700:28:39,940 --> 00:28:45,190call on at any time to help you to

55800:28:43,599 --> 00:28:48,099answer question so it's stupid the ones

55900:28:45,190 --> 00:28:51,870who limit themselves by not believing in

56000:28:48,099 --> 00:28:54,009a God there's almost there's some

56100:28:51,869 --> 00:28:56,289there's some people won't even deal with

56200:28:54,009 --> 00:28:58,089them but you got to have that for you

56300:28:56,289 --> 00:29:01,659that's what it all comes from especially

56400:28:58,089 --> 00:29:05,319any kind of mystical knowledge abilities

56500:29:01,660 --> 00:29:07,690all that stuff you can get them pure in

56600:29:05,319 --> 00:29:09,549the you know pure state from God you can

56700:29:07,690 --> 00:29:12,279get them fast and you get them in the

56800:29:09,549 --> 00:29:13,990right way so that you can use those

56900:29:12,279 --> 00:29:15,700things in the right way that people want

57000:29:13,990 --> 00:29:18,759the power but they don't want the God


57100:29:15,700 --> 00:29:22,179behind the power so and in that way

57200:29:18,759 --> 00:29:24,308they'll be limited to it's like God only

57300:29:22,179 --> 00:29:26,140it's an interesting things like you

57400:29:24,308 --> 00:29:27,789gotta have God in the spiritual then all

57500:29:26,140 --> 00:29:29,830those doors that see

57600:29:27,789 --> 00:29:31,720instrument mountable won't be easily

57700:29:29,829 --> 00:29:34,379opened easily too

57800:29:31,720 --> 00:29:37,089you'll see you'll see it with clarity

57900:29:34,380 --> 00:29:40,630just with the near death and now with

58000:29:37,089 --> 00:29:44,470the UFO thing and that ever-expanding

58100:29:40,630 --> 00:29:47,620UFO thing won't be completely solved in

58200:29:44,470 --> 00:29:49,829360 degree angles but we've what we've

58300:29:47,619 --> 00:29:52,569done with our UFO research goes beyond

58400:29:49,829 --> 00:29:54,879what anything else happening out there


58500:29:52,569 --> 00:29:57,220now and it we connect a lot of stuff up

58600:29:54,880 --> 00:30:00,130but you gotta have God in it because

58700:29:57,220 --> 00:30:01,809that's a freaking world and as a normal

58800:30:00,130 --> 00:30:05,380person who's not even into it like us

58900:30:01,809 --> 00:30:06,690we'll be free it will flip out just you

59000:30:05,380 --> 00:30:08,710know just from having an out-of-body

59100:30:06,690 --> 00:30:11,049like you said you didn't want to have

59200:30:08,710 --> 00:30:12,970another quality so it's uh but all those

59300:30:11,049 --> 00:30:14,430things the person needs an extra shield

59400:30:12,970 --> 00:30:19,630an extra protection because it's

59500:30:14,430 --> 00:30:22,120psychologically stressful and oh yeah

59600:30:19,630 --> 00:30:25,480it's just good to have God with you

59700:30:22,119 --> 00:30:27,819that's if you need something you can get

59800:30:25,480 --> 00:30:30,549it I know that all too well Eugene

599


00:30:27,819 --> 00:30:32,740because you know what it's funny there's

60000:30:30,549 --> 00:30:35,169something that absolutely petrifies me

60100:30:32,740 --> 00:30:36,819and we'll get into the OBE experiences

60200:30:35,170 --> 00:30:40,060later on in the show but there's

60300:30:36,819 --> 00:30:42,879something that absolutely pair freaks

60400:30:40,059 --> 00:30:45,700the living hell out of me about OBEs and

60500:30:42,880 --> 00:30:48,850you know swimming around astrally trying

60600:30:45,700 --> 00:30:51,670to get back to my body not knowing if it

60700:30:48,849 --> 00:30:53,949has and I'm talking I've been eight feet

60800:30:51,670 --> 00:30:55,420from an extraterrestrial you know what

60900:30:53,950 --> 00:30:57,509I'm saying I had one on the other side

61000:30:55,420 --> 00:31:01,870of the window sure it startled me and

61100:30:57,509 --> 00:31:04,089but I can do that no problem you know if

61200:31:01,869 --> 00:31:05,559I see another extraterrestrial standing

61300:31:04,089 --> 00:31:07,779


in front of me I'm going up to it

61400:31:05,559 --> 00:31:10,329I'm not running away I'm going I'm going

61500:31:07,779 --> 00:31:12,700up to it but an OBE or a near-death

61600:31:10,329 --> 00:31:15,069experience I don't know man I don't

61700:31:12,700 --> 00:31:17,430think I'm ready for that just yet I'm

61800:31:15,069 --> 00:31:20,500not ready for that type of

61900:31:17,430 --> 00:31:22,000responsibility because I'm still got too

62000:31:20,500 --> 00:31:24,250much to figure out on the other end

62100:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,849before I take another topic on that's

62200:31:24,250 --> 00:31:26,730for sure

62300:31:24,849 --> 00:31:30,339but that's me personally that's why

62400:31:26,730 --> 00:31:31,839Eugene debb's life and I'm gonna get you

62500:31:30,339 --> 00:31:33,730hold on to that answer I'm gonna get you

62600:31:31,839 --> 00:31:35,379to hold on here for a few minutes is

62700:31:33,730 --> 00:31:37,390we're gonna hop out for a break at the


62800:31:35,380 --> 00:31:40,210bottom of the hour I know I got a few

62900:31:37,390 --> 00:31:41,230friends listening in who we were out for

63000:31:40,210 --> 00:31:45,450drinks after

63100:31:41,230 --> 00:31:47,039daytime career today Hilda Andy and Oh

63200:31:45,450 --> 00:31:51,190what's her name

63300:31:47,039 --> 00:31:54,579Kaitlyn just so you know bill Cardwell

63400:31:51,190 --> 00:31:55,620says the password tonight is the NADA

63500:31:54,579 --> 00:31:58,269phobia

63600:31:55,619 --> 00:31:59,709we'll get to what that means right after

63700:31:58,269 --> 00:32:01,808this the natto phobia

63800:31:59,710 --> 00:32:03,490tonight's password you're listening to

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74600:36:22,820 --> 00:36:27,510welcome back to spaced out radio tonight

74700:36:25,380 --> 00:36:29,460I am your host Dave Scott thank you so

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77300:37:28,349 --> 00:37:33,719spaced out radio.com tonight we are

77400:37:30,960 --> 00:37:37,019talking with Eugene Braxton America's

77500:37:33,719 --> 00:37:38,909most experienced mystic is the nickname

77600:37:37,019 --> 00:37:41,070he has I want to explain the whole

77700:37:38,909 --> 00:37:41,789password thing that I said right before

77800:37:41,070 --> 00:37:43,950the break

77900:37:41,789 --> 00:37:45,480because I know Hilda Andy and Caitlyn

78000:37:43,949 --> 00:37:47,250are listening in good friends of mine we

78100:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,920went for a drink after my daytime job

78200:37:47,250 --> 00:37:53,309today the whole password tonight is the

78300:37:49,920 --> 00:37:55,590natto phobia I don't know why but that's

78400:37:53,309 --> 00:37:58,170


just the password bill Cardwell who

78500:37:55,590 --> 00:38:01,470listens in on the SOR space travelers

78600:37:58,170 --> 00:38:03,840he's here on a nightly basis few weeks

78700:38:01,469 --> 00:38:06,359ago he just started posting in there

78800:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,280tonight's password is and I was trying

78900:38:06,360 --> 00:38:12,599to figure out what the hell the password

79000:38:08,280 --> 00:38:15,690was for but it's really for nothing it's

79100:38:12,599 --> 00:38:17,880just the password so every night when

79200:38:15,690 --> 00:38:21,720bill comes into the SOR space travelers

79300:38:17,880 --> 00:38:24,630chatroom on Facebook he announces the

79400:38:21,719 --> 00:38:26,639password and it's one of those little

79500:38:24,630 --> 00:38:29,519gimmicks that happens as you spend a lot

79600:38:26,639 --> 00:38:31,949of time together bill and friends with

79700:38:29,519 --> 00:38:34,590this show all of you listening in to

79800:38:31,949 --> 00:38:35,889this show with our guests and you kind


79900:38:34,590 --> 00:38:37,568of just run with it

80000:38:35,889 --> 00:38:40,239it's about having fun and making it all

80100:38:37,568 --> 00:38:44,500part of the experience the password is

80200:38:40,239 --> 00:38:46,419for nothing it just for nothing it's

80300:38:44,500 --> 00:38:49,119just the password for life I guess I

80400:38:46,420 --> 00:38:53,230have no idea but the password tonight is

80500:38:49,119 --> 00:38:55,568Vanetta phobia Eugene Braxton once again

80600:38:53,230 --> 00:38:57,039is our guest - Eugene I had to get that

80700:38:55,568 --> 00:39:01,778out because I got a lot of people say

80800:38:57,039 --> 00:39:05,049what the hell is that all about so so I

80900:39:01,778 --> 00:39:07,719had to just get it out there it's all

81000:39:05,048 --> 00:39:08,980about having fun anyways right before

81100:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,239the break we were talking about that

81200:39:08,980 --> 00:39:12,130there should be some sort of belief


81300:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,768system in order to try and understand

81400:39:12,130 --> 00:39:18,818and get the answers to what is going on

81500:39:14,768 --> 00:39:20,709in life's little mysteries you have done

81600:39:18,818 --> 00:39:24,608so many interviews so many radio

81700:39:20,710 --> 00:39:25,769stations so many lectures about what you

81800:39:24,608 --> 00:39:29,230have learned about near-death

81900:39:25,768 --> 00:39:31,358experiences out-of-body experiences

82000:39:29,230 --> 00:39:34,869you're the go-to guy when it comes to

82100:39:31,358 --> 00:39:37,538this Eugene I mean when you have not

82200:39:34,869 --> 00:39:41,140only media but university professors

82300:39:37,539 --> 00:39:42,759asking you for opinions on why this is

82400:39:41,139 --> 00:39:45,969happening and please explain it to me

82500:39:42,759 --> 00:39:48,400you're you're not a stupid guy you're a

82600:39:45,969 --> 00:39:50,078guy who people look to for answers

827


00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,730because we're not able to find the

82800:39:50,079 --> 00:39:53,769answers on our own but one of the

82900:39:51,730 --> 00:39:57,338subjects that you have really stayed

83000:39:53,768 --> 00:39:59,318away from and I don't know why maybe

83100:39:57,338 --> 00:40:02,139it's just never come up is the

83200:39:59,318 --> 00:40:04,929extra-terrestrial experience that you

83300:40:02,139 --> 00:40:07,028have had I would love for you to delve

83400:40:04,929 --> 00:40:11,558into that and when did that start

83500:40:07,028 --> 00:40:16,119happening for you yeah I've uh I've

83600:40:11,559 --> 00:40:20,069lightly talked about it but not talked

83700:40:16,119 --> 00:40:22,650about it in any kind of research ways or

83800:40:20,068 --> 00:40:27,338gotten into any kind of depth of that

83900:40:22,650 --> 00:40:30,639and you asked me how did I get into the

84000:40:27,338 --> 00:40:32,858study of it yeah when did your first

84100:40:30,639 --> 00:40:41,739


experience with extraterrestrials happen

84200:40:32,858 --> 00:40:45,308I was about six or seven and I was in

84300:40:41,739 --> 00:40:49,179bed we had bunk beds I had a brother and

84400:40:45,309 --> 00:40:49,780I saw this little what we would want to

84500:40:49,179 --> 00:40:51,969grow

84600:40:49,780 --> 00:40:55,360poking his as I looked up at the ceiling

84700:40:51,969 --> 00:40:58,149I saw him poking his head down at me and

84800:40:55,360 --> 00:41:01,030as though he had climbed up the bunk bed

84900:40:58,150 --> 00:41:04,750you know behind my head and looked down

85000:41:01,030 --> 00:41:09,010at me and then either I went under the

85100:41:04,750 --> 00:41:10,869covers or I lost consciousness but I

85200:41:09,010 --> 00:41:14,230definitely remember that I'll never

85300:41:10,869 --> 00:41:15,519forget that that was the first thing and

85400:41:14,230 --> 00:41:18,400I might have back then thought I was

85500:41:15,519 --> 00:41:20,679imagining it but that was any peeked out


85600:41:18,400 --> 00:41:23,260at me when I was in bed I thought it's

85700:41:20,679 --> 00:41:27,389about 67 my brother was in the liver

85800:41:23,260 --> 00:41:31,330amputation probably asleep and then

85900:41:27,389 --> 00:41:33,429after that it would be right after the

86000:41:31,329 --> 00:41:39,309near-death I had been near death at 15

86100:41:33,429 --> 00:41:45,750and at 19 of his 19 year I saw a UFO

86200:41:39,309 --> 00:41:49,420with a school friend in Ohio Roger and

86300:41:45,750 --> 00:41:52,110it was on a main Boulevard where other

86400:41:49,420 --> 00:41:54,789cars were but when the UFO showed up

86500:41:52,110 --> 00:41:56,710nothing moved at all and out of the

86600:41:54,789 --> 00:41:59,739peripheral vision I could see the

86700:41:56,710 --> 00:42:02,289headlights of the other cars but they

86800:41:59,739 --> 00:42:06,299froze there during the entire sighting

86900:42:02,289 --> 00:42:11,650and that was the first full sighting and


87000:42:06,300 --> 00:42:16,720probable abduction and I've always kept

87100:42:11,650 --> 00:42:24,460the UFO things to myself just because

87200:42:16,719 --> 00:42:26,829it's so real realistically outlandish in

87300:42:24,460 --> 00:42:28,960one way it's realistic then in another

87400:42:26,829 --> 00:42:31,360way it's outlandish like in the

87500:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,470conscious way it's outlandish to even

87600:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,900think about those kind of things

87700:42:32,469 --> 00:42:37,949happening these two struggle with them

87800:42:34,900 --> 00:42:40,720during the dreams and then in the

87900:42:37,949 --> 00:42:42,129unconscious or spiritual way it's fully

88000:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,109realistic because you know it's

88100:42:42,130 --> 00:42:47,769happening you're struggling with them

88200:42:44,110 --> 00:42:49,990and you remember it that's a sign if you

88300:42:47,769 --> 00:42:51,909remember the experience later it's

884


00:42:49,989 --> 00:42:55,689usually more than a dream or something

88500:42:51,909 --> 00:42:58,869like that but uh I have these big huge

88600:42:55,690 --> 00:43:04,110scar marks on both my thighs up near the

88700:42:58,869 --> 00:43:09,599waist or you know in that in that crotch

88800:43:04,110 --> 00:43:12,269area on the side and I show dr. J he

88900:43:09,599 --> 00:43:15,389verified them and they had the same web

89000:43:12,269 --> 00:43:20,309stitching so I have a personal stake in

89100:43:15,389 --> 00:43:22,170this I want to see the Y's didn t you

89200:43:20,309 --> 00:43:25,380know that that's what got me curious

89300:43:22,170 --> 00:43:28,289but the sightings the head above my face

89400:43:25,380 --> 00:43:31,260and just like you said about one psychic

89500:43:28,289 --> 00:43:34,110occurrence bringing on another until the

89600:43:31,260 --> 00:43:36,030person is occurrence prone after that

89700:43:34,110 --> 00:43:38,880first sighting with Roger I would have

89800:43:36,030 --> 00:43:41,190


another one within a year or so maybe

89900:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,349that same summer over summer there were

90000:43:41,190 --> 00:43:45,570a few in the nineteen year old age group

90100:43:43,349 --> 00:43:47,429and then another one here in

90200:43:45,570 --> 00:43:49,170Philadelphia with my son and he had a

90300:43:47,429 --> 00:43:51,149football pads over he's coming from

90400:43:49,170 --> 00:43:52,950football practice like the peewee

90500:43:51,150 --> 00:43:55,289football and we saw one

90600:43:52,949 --> 00:43:58,289this was the sphere in the 70s it was a

90700:43:55,289 --> 00:44:01,949saucer this one came as a white sphere

90800:43:58,289 --> 00:44:03,360it looked like in fact we were driving

90900:44:01,949 --> 00:44:05,279on the highway near the Philly Airport I

91000:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,559said look Eddie there's a planet Saturn

91100:44:05,280 --> 00:44:10,019it was a windy night and as I said

91200:44:07,559 --> 00:44:12,360Saturn and we looked at it we can see


91300:44:10,019 --> 00:44:14,400the Rings and all I realized that wait a

91400:44:12,360 --> 00:44:16,650second we can't see the planet Saturn

91500:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,809from the earth and as we looked at it

91600:44:16,650 --> 00:44:20,730our vision magnified which is something

91700:44:18,809 --> 00:44:23,099that usually only happens when you're in

91800:44:20,730 --> 00:44:27,500spiritual form but the vision magnified

91900:44:23,099 --> 00:44:30,000we could see each individual ring so

92000:44:27,500 --> 00:44:33,869without seeing it move it suddenly went

92100:44:30,000 --> 00:44:36,900from a planet would look like a the moon

92200:44:33,869 --> 00:44:39,269sized planet it Zdenek was suddenly in

92300:44:36,900 --> 00:44:41,369our atmosphere then above above the

92400:44:39,269 --> 00:44:42,869bridge that we were driving on and we

92500:44:41,369 --> 00:44:45,029slowed down thinking about other people

92600:44:42,869 --> 00:44:47,159and they were racing to go where they


92700:44:45,030 --> 00:44:50,030were going to go could see it too but no

92800:44:47,159 --> 00:44:53,279one even looked but he and I saw it and

92900:44:50,030 --> 00:44:54,900it was right above our car and the

93000:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,460traffic is too much for us to fully stop

93100:44:54,900 --> 00:45:00,000then it bounced across the highway and

93200:44:56,460 --> 00:45:03,210sunk down into this Marsh and like

93300:45:00,000 --> 00:45:07,369sometimes experiences do we just shook

93400:45:03,210 --> 00:45:11,579it off and continued on on our way but a

93500:45:07,369 --> 00:45:13,650month before that we had had a UFO

93600:45:11,579 --> 00:45:15,449sighting at a haunted house I had

93700:45:13,650 --> 00:45:17,190mentioned it once on space that radio a

93800:45:15,449 --> 00:45:17,789month later after the haunted house

93900:45:17,190 --> 00:45:22,740which

94000:45:17,789 --> 00:45:24,630this euro on the highway so it's a lot

941


00:45:22,739 --> 00:45:32,149of things that are connected but that

94200:45:24,630 --> 00:45:35,670UFO thing is especially spooky scary

94300:45:32,150 --> 00:45:37,320it's definitely real there's a lot of

94400:45:35,670 --> 00:45:39,360people you know people are talking about

94500:45:37,320 --> 00:45:42,120you know the aliens are nice there are

94600:45:39,360 --> 00:45:45,210space family and we should enter them

94700:45:42,119 --> 00:45:48,659into our earth and welcome them and all

94800:45:45,210 --> 00:45:50,630this they want to help us us but when

94900:45:48,659 --> 00:45:53,429you really just coldly look at it

95000:45:50,630 --> 00:45:57,360there's not actually we don't know a lot

95100:45:53,429 --> 00:45:57,899about these beings we don't know what

95200:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,550they are

95300:45:57,900 --> 00:46:02,340we're not really sure what they are

95400:45:59,550 --> 00:46:03,630definitely everyone has ideas we don't

95500:46:02,340 --> 00:46:06,420


know what they are we don't know where

95600:46:03,630 --> 00:46:08,579exactly they came from the stories that

95700:46:06,420 --> 00:46:11,490they tell people seem to differ each

95800:46:08,579 --> 00:46:15,420generation sometimes they tell people

95900:46:11,489 --> 00:46:19,289outright lies they've actually gone and

96000:46:15,420 --> 00:46:21,300said that that one minute they're from

96100:46:19,289 --> 00:46:23,429the Pleiades then they're from Mars that

96200:46:21,300 --> 00:46:25,260in the 50s at one point they have

96300:46:23,429 --> 00:46:28,319claimed that they were Jesus Christ and

96400:46:25,260 --> 00:46:30,270God and that we are at what Betty Hill

96500:46:28,320 --> 00:46:33,900was told when she asked who are you guys

96600:46:30,269 --> 00:46:36,809they said we are your parents and so you

96700:46:33,900 --> 00:46:39,119get all kinds of answers about no real

96800:46:36,809 --> 00:46:42,029answers you can't get any kind of

96900:46:39,119 --> 00:46:45,059information from these beings a lot of


97000:46:42,030 --> 00:46:47,760them are cold and clinical and a lot of

97100:46:45,059 --> 00:46:50,460people who have had UFO experiences

97200:46:47,760 --> 00:46:53,370almost had that Stockholm Syndrome where

97300:46:50,460 --> 00:46:56,190after being treated badly they then

97400:46:53,369 --> 00:46:58,380start to identify with the people who

97500:46:56,190 --> 00:47:01,070treated them badly so people have

97600:46:58,380 --> 00:47:06,690switched into seeing something that and

97700:47:01,070 --> 00:47:08,130there are good ETS or what people

97800:47:06,690 --> 00:47:12,059perceive as ETS

97900:47:08,130 --> 00:47:14,070some people believe that angels but they

98000:47:12,059 --> 00:47:17,519seer some people believe that what they

98100:47:14,070 --> 00:47:19,080see as angels they may possibly really

98200:47:17,519 --> 00:47:20,969think some people can't distinguish

98300:47:19,079 --> 00:47:22,949between angels and ETS I asked Betty


98400:47:20,969 --> 00:47:24,539hill that I said do you ever think

98500:47:22,949 --> 00:47:26,129people mistake angels for

98600:47:24,539 --> 00:47:29,820extraterrestrials and she had never

98700:47:26,130 --> 00:47:32,079considered that but the similarities are

98800:47:29,820 --> 00:47:35,200exactly the same

98900:47:32,079 --> 00:47:36,880so it's the person just like coldly and

99000:47:35,199 --> 00:47:39,460that was good for working with dr.

99100:47:36,880 --> 00:47:41,950Jacobs because he just coldly analyzed

99200:47:39,460 --> 00:47:46,720other evidence that was in front of him

99300:47:41,949 --> 00:47:49,169and I took that a step further and the

99400:47:46,719 --> 00:47:54,489negative aspect of the UFO mythology

99500:47:49,170 --> 00:47:56,528went into the realm of demonism it

99600:47:54,489 --> 00:47:59,229literally and easily went there and

99700:47:56,528 --> 00:48:01,838other people from the past has backed

998


00:47:59,230 --> 00:48:06,818that up like Hynek J Allen Hynek and

99900:48:01,838 --> 00:48:09,699jock valet and the holy books of all all

100000:48:06,818 --> 00:48:14,139 oh the free Maine holy books you

100100:48:09,699 --> 00:48:17,379know also back that up so the FBI has

100200:48:14,139 --> 00:48:20,170said it government scientists have said

100300:48:17,380 --> 00:48:21,940it and the two greatest local

100400:48:20,170 --> 00:48:24,490researchers in the last you know hundred

100500:48:21,940 --> 00:48:28,000years had said it and not to mention our

100600:48:24,489 --> 00:48:31,808own religious books from days of old so

100700:48:28,000 --> 00:48:34,329and then when the person really examines

100800:48:31,809 --> 00:48:40,150is Europe open um you know phenomena

100900:48:34,329 --> 00:48:41,619they see that part of it is ritual

101000:48:40,150 --> 00:48:44,798thinking to think that these things

101100:48:41,619 --> 00:48:47,500these beings are here to help us and

101200:48:44,798 --> 00:48:49,449


some of itself like denial and there's a

101300:48:47,500 --> 00:48:51,940lot to that but they the people have

101400:48:49,449 --> 00:48:53,078kind of been this make some wild to them

101500:48:51,940 --> 00:48:57,130to here but they've almost been

101600:48:53,079 --> 00:48:59,440brainwashed away from a real

101700:48:57,130 --> 00:49:02,740spirituality into a kind of like et

101800:48:59,440 --> 00:49:08,608spirituality where a reincarnation is

101900:49:02,739 --> 00:49:12,008the norm at a person at several lives

102000:49:08,608 --> 00:49:13,900there is no God or the name of God

102100:49:12,009 --> 00:49:16,509exchange it's just it's a work kind of

102200:49:13,900 --> 00:49:20,588thing and one lady I heard yesterday

102300:49:16,509 --> 00:49:23,619said that my a couple days ago that Maya

102400:49:20,588 --> 00:49:26,759the aliens who abducted me treated me

102500:49:23,619 --> 00:49:29,920badly but I still felt that they were

102600:49:26,759 --> 00:49:33,670all right or I still trusted them or


102700:49:29,920 --> 00:49:37,059something to that effect and but these

102800:49:33,670 --> 00:49:39,548things literally had they literally

102900:49:37,059 --> 00:49:43,230giving us us nothing and they're always

103000:49:39,548 --> 00:49:46,309taking from us samples skin scrapings

103100:49:43,230 --> 00:49:49,679all of a state they take there and

103200:49:46,309 --> 00:49:52,289there's a lot I used to have beneficial

103300:49:49,679 --> 00:49:56,399and positive experiences with being - I

103400:49:52,289 --> 00:49:59,608fell for ETS or angels or a combination

103500:49:56,400 --> 00:50:02,000of both but these spirit beings and I

103600:49:59,608 --> 00:50:04,619would go and it's a part of that

103700:50:02,000 --> 00:50:06,510abduction indoctrination to go to

103800:50:04,619 --> 00:50:08,309learning centers or Loden learning

103900:50:06,510 --> 00:50:11,010levels there's always like a layer

104000:50:08,309 --> 00:50:12,750behind a layer there's like the reality


104100:50:11,010 --> 00:50:15,450there's like the illusion that people

104200:50:12,750 --> 00:50:17,190initially see and then there's a reality

104300:50:15,449 --> 00:50:18,719behind the illusion like a used car it

104400:50:17,190 --> 00:50:20,670looks fine then when you get into that

104500:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,67950 miles it breaks down so there's and

104600:50:20,670 --> 00:50:26,700in the near death there was a reality

104700:50:22,679 --> 00:50:30,179behind me normal what people see as a

104800:50:26,699 --> 00:50:30,779near-death illusion so is in the solving

104900:50:30,179 --> 00:50:33,179of the near-death

105000:50:30,780 --> 00:50:36,500there was a sub reality behind that and

105100:50:33,179 --> 00:50:39,569that merged in with another reality that

105200:50:36,500 --> 00:50:41,000would seemingly be a polar opposite I

105300:50:39,570 --> 00:50:44,700think you understand what I'm saying but

105400:50:41,000 --> 00:50:46,469it's good to double and triple look into

1055


00:50:44,699 --> 00:50:50,909things especially uh when you have

105600:50:46,469 --> 00:50:52,500beings from another dimension it seems

105700:50:50,909 --> 00:50:55,108like they're coming from and let death

105800:50:52,500 --> 00:50:56,730more so than a planet because we could

105900:50:55,108 --> 00:50:59,699see them through the skies if they were

106000:50:56,730 --> 00:51:02,760coming from a planet and I helped dr.

106100:50:59,699 --> 00:51:04,949Jay to curb his thinking and be more

106200:51:02,760 --> 00:51:07,890bendable in the way of thinking about

106300:51:04,949 --> 00:51:09,509because he was of the mindset that these

106400:51:07,889 --> 00:51:11,579beings are physical beings come in

106500:51:09,510 --> 00:51:15,660physical ships from a physical planet

106600:51:11,579 --> 00:51:21,090and but the things that they do defy all

106700:51:15,659 --> 00:51:22,710of that and like the doctor minister

106800:51:21,090 --> 00:51:24,900chuck Missler said you'd see it easily

106900:51:22,710 --> 00:51:27,570


feed them coming in the sky just like we

107000:51:24,900 --> 00:51:30,840can see comet leader like right and

107100:51:27,570 --> 00:51:32,940those kind of but but eugene some people

107200:51:30,840 --> 00:51:35,608can see them coming give me an example

107300:51:32,940 --> 00:51:38,369my booking coordinator corey i call her

107400:51:35,608 --> 00:51:42,449a summoner she can go outside at any

107500:51:38,369 --> 00:51:45,690clear night and see them yet yes but

107600:51:42,449 --> 00:51:47,789what does she see no I mean it's because

107700:51:45,690 --> 00:51:50,579definitely that they're there and their

107800:51:47,789 --> 00:51:53,489self as they're seeing what is it you

107900:51:50,579 --> 00:51:56,299know it comes from it comes from lights

108000:51:53,489 --> 00:51:58,009it comes from ships in the sky

108100:51:56,300 --> 00:51:59,360you're watching and a lot of people will

108200:51:58,010 --> 00:52:00,080say well maybe she's just seeing a

108300:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,390satellite


108400:52:00,079 --> 00:52:08,389well the satellite doesn't stop and

108500:52:02,389 --> 00:52:11,960didn't do a 90-degree turn right yeah I

108600:52:08,389 --> 00:52:14,750mean like I'm sure that she's seen UFO

108700:52:11,960 --> 00:52:17,360activity but when it gets down to these

108800:52:14,750 --> 00:52:20,210UFOs and these aliens what really are we

108900:52:17,360 --> 00:52:21,710seeing or you know are their appearance

109000:52:20,210 --> 00:52:23,119here is that some kind of illusion -

109100:52:21,710 --> 00:52:24,710there seem to be all kind of things

109200:52:23,119 --> 00:52:27,139where they could morph into this and

109300:52:24,710 --> 00:52:30,170welcome to that but behind like what we

109400:52:27,139 --> 00:52:33,559see them presenting to us what are they

109500:52:30,170 --> 00:52:35,000in origin and like that because we'd

109600:52:33,559 --> 00:52:39,110there's so little that we really know

109700:52:35,000 --> 00:52:43,250about them oh absolutely but our leaving


109800:52:39,110 --> 00:52:46,430tracks and traces that can be followed

109900:52:43,250 --> 00:52:49,659oh very understandable Eugene but it

110000:52:46,429 --> 00:52:52,819also comes down to the fact that that

110100:52:49,659 --> 00:52:56,539it's our own governments who have made

110200:52:52,820 --> 00:52:59,390contact who are not filling us in on

110300:52:56,539 --> 00:53:01,519what the truth is and even the Pope for

110400:52:59,389 --> 00:53:03,219instance who has come out this year and

110500:53:01,519 --> 00:53:05,420said he believes there is

110600:53:03,219 --> 00:53:07,250extraterrestrials outside of Earth and

110700:53:05,420 --> 00:53:10,700that God has created life outside of

110800:53:07,250 --> 00:53:12,739this planet he has not come out and said

110900:53:10,699 --> 00:53:15,469what he knows so there's this big

111000:53:12,739 --> 00:53:17,239mystique and mystery from our leaders

111100:53:15,469 --> 00:53:19,129who are weird we are supposed to trust

1112


00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:21,769who are keeping people in the dark

111300:53:19,130 --> 00:53:24,170because I don't believe for a second

111400:53:21,769 --> 00:53:28,190that all extraterrestrials are bad just

111500:53:24,170 --> 00:53:30,289be like I don't believe all races are

111600:53:28,190 --> 00:53:33,050bad I don't believe all Muslims are bad

111700:53:30,289 --> 00:53:36,050I don't believe all Christians are bad

111800:53:33,050 --> 00:53:39,470or all Jews or or people who fought for

111900:53:36,050 --> 00:53:40,550the Nazis in World War two many of them

112000:53:39,469 --> 00:53:43,909didn't have a choice

112100:53:40,550 --> 00:53:46,430it was fight it was fight or die or will

112200:53:43,909 --> 00:53:49,039kill your family they had no choice they

112300:53:46,429 --> 00:53:51,079didn't want to and I believe that

112400:53:49,039 --> 00:53:55,369strongly with the extraterrestrials as

112500:53:51,079 --> 00:53:57,679well the scene with the government and

112600:53:55,369 --> 00:54:01,039


and the regular people know that they're

112700:53:57,679 --> 00:54:03,379ETS and you see them in the skies people

112800:54:01,039 --> 00:54:04,909are taking thousands of videos and some

112900:54:03,380 --> 00:54:06,710good ones too and you can go in like

113000:54:04,909 --> 00:54:08,539NASA and stuff and see hundreds of these

113100:54:06,710 --> 00:54:10,340things floating and flitting all about

113200:54:08,539 --> 00:54:12,739like mosquitoes on a hot

113300:54:10,340 --> 00:54:14,180tonight there's a lot of them like when

113400:54:12,739 --> 00:54:16,099you go on the NASA site and see those

113500:54:14,179 --> 00:54:18,079things the ones there's a they're

113600:54:16,099 --> 00:54:23,509swarming the planning whatever they are

113700:54:18,079 --> 00:54:25,190and but with the government and there's

113800:54:23,510 --> 00:54:27,700a big question mark with these aliens we

113900:54:25,190 --> 00:54:32,119just can't assume that they're some cool

114000:54:27,699 --> 00:54:36,369you know interplanetary species going to


114100:54:32,119 --> 00:54:39,469be cool with us because uh just like

114200:54:36,369 --> 00:54:41,659with these ETS we do have to let our

114300:54:39,469 --> 00:54:42,859apprehension extend further than our

114400:54:41,659 --> 00:54:44,989comprehension because they're not

114500:54:42,860 --> 00:54:48,019revealing much to them and they're

114600:54:44,989 --> 00:54:49,429extracting you wouldn't believe what

114700:54:48,019 --> 00:54:53,210they're extracting from us and I guess

114800:54:49,429 --> 00:54:55,369like talk about that later but they're

114900:54:53,210 --> 00:54:56,929fully using us and the bad ones I'm

115000:54:55,369 --> 00:55:00,259talking about there are good ones and

115100:54:56,929 --> 00:55:03,049I've dealt with them but who knows what

115200:55:00,260 --> 00:55:05,090reasons they may have interacted me with

115300:55:03,050 --> 00:55:08,060me in a beneficial way they might have

115400:55:05,090 --> 00:55:09,769been grooming the subject they


115500:55:08,059 --> 00:55:11,529definitely had to have a plan and they

115600:55:09,769 --> 00:55:13,880definitely have abilities and powers

115700:55:11,530 --> 00:55:15,170beyond Horus but we just definitely be

115800:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,700careful with these things that we don't

115900:55:15,170 --> 00:55:19,400even know what they are they can switch

116000:55:16,699 --> 00:55:21,169they know our past present future these

116100:55:19,400 --> 00:55:23,150are pretty powerful things and we gotta

116200:55:21,170 --> 00:55:25,340watch it well this leads into Lynn's

116300:55:23,150 --> 00:55:26,930question this leads into Lynn's question

116400:55:25,340 --> 00:55:29,230coming from paranormal forum

116500:55:26,929 --> 00:55:30,949do you believe eugene that

116600:55:29,230 --> 00:55:37,400extraterrestrials are demonic

116700:55:30,949 --> 00:55:42,049I believe that extraterrestrials are

116800:55:37,400 --> 00:55:44,150spiritual beings and demons are

1169


00:55:42,050 --> 00:55:46,340spiritual beings so I believe that did

117000:55:44,150 --> 00:55:48,910that I believe that some extra

117100:55:46,340 --> 00:55:52,039commercials are definitely demonic

117200:55:48,909 --> 00:55:54,019just as you know you said nothing is all

117300:55:52,039 --> 00:55:56,690one way and even with those spirit

117400:55:54,019 --> 00:56:02,840things there's definitely some bad ones

117500:55:56,690 --> 00:56:08,599who they're probably about a third yeah

117600:56:02,840 --> 00:56:11,390there are no angels and you know what I

117700:56:08,599 --> 00:56:13,250agree with you I do on that that I do

117800:56:11,389 --> 00:56:17,659believe there are some that are just so

117900:56:13,250 --> 00:56:19,460evil that you know they'd be more

118000:56:17,659 --> 00:56:22,039interested in than having us for dinner

118100:56:19,460 --> 00:56:24,110and I mean us being the main course then

118200:56:22,039 --> 00:56:27,170helping us solve the riddles of

118300:56:24,110 --> 00:56:31,730


and mankind I get that I can appreciate

118400:56:27,170 --> 00:56:35,510that right but I also coming from

118500:56:31,730 --> 00:56:36,860another country and seeing and talking

118600:56:35,510 --> 00:56:39,410to Canadian people

118700:56:36,860 --> 00:56:44,200I'll pass this theory on to you to get

118800:56:39,409 --> 00:56:49,099your opinion of it and that opinion is

118900:56:44,199 --> 00:56:52,399and this isn't scientific by any sort so

119000:56:49,099 --> 00:56:55,219it's just my own theory I strongly

119100:56:52,400 --> 00:56:58,369believe that what is happening with

119200:56:55,219 --> 00:57:02,509people down in the United States with

119300:56:58,369 --> 00:57:05,029very negative contact is quite contrary

119400:57:02,510 --> 00:57:08,000to most Canadian people I have met who

119500:57:05,030 --> 00:57:10,160have had contact and I strongly believe

119600:57:08,000 --> 00:57:14,599that that has to do with the fact that

119700:57:10,159 --> 00:57:17,029in 1947 or partly 1953 President


119800:57:14,599 --> 00:57:19,819Eisenhower when he was on tour to

119900:57:17,030 --> 00:57:22,880California went into Edwards Air Force

120000:57:19,820 --> 00:57:28,700Base and cut a deal which was humans for

120100:57:22,880 --> 00:57:30,590technology and that's why they Hey

120200:57:28,699 --> 00:57:32,119and it could have probably it could have

120300:57:30,590 --> 00:57:37,700easily happened yeah I could see that

120400:57:32,119 --> 00:57:40,730happening and you hate go ahead no one

120500:57:37,699 --> 00:57:42,739that's why I strongly believe eugene

120600:57:40,730 --> 00:57:44,510that there is a lot of differing

120700:57:42,739 --> 00:57:46,489opinions and it's not just the u.s.

120800:57:44,510 --> 00:57:50,030there's a lot of negative experiences

120900:57:46,489 --> 00:57:52,789happening in Russia in Europe okay like

121000:57:50,030 --> 00:57:56,120Britain all these major players on the

121100:57:52,789 --> 00:57:59,750world scene four world powers that have


121200:57:56,119 --> 00:58:02,839all of this military technology and yet

121300:57:59,750 --> 00:58:06,469the countries that are smaller such as

121400:58:02,840 --> 00:58:09,829Canada such as Mexico such as Brazil

121500:58:06,469 --> 00:58:15,079such as Portugal who have taken another

121600:58:09,829 --> 00:58:19,069step towards UF ology don't seem to be

121700:58:15,079 --> 00:58:21,049having the negative as much as the other

121800:58:19,070 --> 00:58:26,930countries who are more technically

121900:58:21,050 --> 00:58:29,030advanced especially militarily I mean

122000:58:26,929 --> 00:58:30,949you know they might they might have

122100:58:29,030 --> 00:58:32,960certain countries that they might be

122200:58:30,949 --> 00:58:36,500their number one their prime select the

122300:58:32,960 --> 00:58:38,030stock in the secondary and they made the

122400:58:36,500 --> 00:58:42,199other countries and they simply be

122500:58:38,030 --> 00:58:45,920in a downgraded assembly line if you

1226


00:58:42,199 --> 00:58:48,679will and they're uh they're operating in

122700:58:45,920 --> 00:58:51,700all facets and they seem to be operating

122800:58:48,679 --> 00:58:54,409heavily there have operating in a

122900:58:51,699 --> 00:58:55,909clandestine way we can't even see them

123000:58:54,409 --> 00:58:58,369because a lot of times they're taking

123100:58:55,909 --> 00:59:00,799the astral body and they're deriving

123200:58:58,369 --> 00:59:06,589from us way more than just skin

123300:59:00,800 --> 00:59:09,350samplings and physical stuff it's DNA

123400:59:06,590 --> 00:59:13,610they're uh they're actually involved

123500:59:09,349 --> 00:59:15,739with soul energy process and that can be

123600:59:13,610 --> 00:59:18,340fully drained from us when we sleep

123700:59:15,739 --> 00:59:21,469that's a couple days ago you said that

123800:59:18,340 --> 00:59:23,390you had fallen asleep and you woke up

123900:59:21,469 --> 00:59:25,849you felt drained so you hadn't slept at

124000:59:23,389 --> 00:59:28,190


all and a lot of times they will drink

124100:59:25,849 --> 00:59:30,170the cosmic energy out of out of a being

124200:59:28,190 --> 00:59:32,059they can they could do it directly from

124300:59:30,170 --> 00:59:34,700the astral body but when the person

124400:59:32,059 --> 00:59:38,029sleeping but that's not cosmic energy

124500:59:34,699 --> 00:59:40,969might boost them bruce's them hundreds

124600:59:38,030 --> 00:59:47,200of years maybe even from just like hey

124700:59:40,969 --> 00:59:50,089uh maybe a month or a half a month but

124800:59:47,199 --> 00:59:52,699so that's a lot of what they're taking

124900:59:50,090 --> 00:59:55,220too it's electromagnetic and they're

125000:59:52,699 --> 00:59:57,649draining us of the cosmic energy in

125100:59:55,219 --> 01:00:00,169addition to using us for sex taking

125200:59:57,650 --> 01:00:05,660samples of our skin restraining us it's

125301:00:00,170 --> 01:00:08,090monstrous in an equal way that it's the

125401:00:05,659 --> 01:00:12,319people have good experiences those are


125501:00:08,090 --> 01:00:14,360almost too wonderful to ecstatic and the

125601:00:12,320 --> 01:00:17,090ones who have bad experiences it's the

125701:00:14,360 --> 01:00:19,039opposite extreme but so you have that

125801:00:17,090 --> 01:00:21,440agony and then you have the ecstasy and

125901:00:19,039 --> 01:00:23,179we that's why it's important to find out

126001:00:21,440 --> 01:00:25,070what these things because the people are

126101:00:23,179 --> 01:00:27,379having the agony are going to a lot of

126201:00:25,070 --> 01:00:29,990stuff and some of them will be changed

126301:00:27,380 --> 01:00:32,960forever psychologically you know

126401:00:29,989 --> 01:00:37,489everyone couldn't handle and I don't

126501:00:32,960 --> 01:00:39,320think a lot of time man handle it yeah

126601:00:37,489 --> 01:00:43,189yeah but with the government see I feel

126701:00:39,320 --> 01:00:45,380that like for me I am NOT going the

126801:00:43,190 --> 01:00:48,019government they probably date I know


126901:00:45,380 --> 01:00:49,579they know way more than what director

127001:00:48,019 --> 01:00:51,170people because I have a friend who's in

127101:00:49,579 --> 01:00:57,500the CIA

127201:00:51,170 --> 01:00:59,960and so they know more about the aliens

127301:00:57,500 --> 01:01:02,929than we do but it's stupid for the

127401:00:59,960 --> 01:01:04,400citizens to outrightly tell the

127501:01:02,929 --> 01:01:10,608government that you're keeping

127601:01:04,400 --> 01:01:12,289information from us if it's true then if

127701:01:10,608 --> 01:01:14,119it's not true they're not going to be

127801:01:12,289 --> 01:01:16,130mad and keep it any but if it's true

127901:01:14,119 --> 01:01:17,539they're still going to keep it you can't

128001:01:16,130 --> 01:01:19,280like really fight your government

128101:01:17,539 --> 01:01:20,690especially like say you know when you're

128201:01:19,280 --> 01:01:23,960telling them to tell us the secret

1283


01:01:20,690 --> 01:01:26,269because they're doing it what they think

128401:01:23,960 --> 01:01:29,838is for the general safety of the country

128501:01:26,269 --> 01:01:31,400and the individuals can wait but some of

128601:01:29,838 --> 01:01:33,828the stuff that they have possibly

128701:01:31,400 --> 01:01:36,019learned is stuff that maybe regular

128801:01:33,829 --> 01:01:39,950people shouldn't know especially the

128901:01:36,019 --> 01:01:41,690stuff on the dark side and there's a lot

129001:01:39,949 --> 01:01:44,779of people who literally could not handle

129101:01:41,690 --> 01:01:46,789some of the information that the

129201:01:44,780 --> 01:01:48,680government knows about things that like

129301:01:46,789 --> 01:01:51,469you and I know but that regular house

129401:01:48,679 --> 01:01:52,909moms and athletes don't know what's you

129501:01:51,469 --> 01:01:55,368know some of the stuff that's going on

129601:01:52,909 --> 01:01:57,710with any kind of possible government

129701:01:55,369 --> 01:02:00,230


thing but you can't make the government

129801:01:57,710 --> 01:02:01,608do it and here in this country if you

129901:02:00,230 --> 01:02:04,159start bitching about the government too

130001:02:01,608 --> 01:02:07,039much like you're some you'll get

130101:02:04,159 --> 01:02:09,529silenced and so it's stupid to go

130201:02:07,039 --> 01:02:11,509against your own government trying to

130301:02:09,530 --> 01:02:13,339make them give you something that you

130401:02:11,510 --> 01:02:16,250can't make them give it to you and they

130501:02:13,338 --> 01:02:17,420may not want to so it's easier to just

130601:02:16,250 --> 01:02:19,539go out and find the answers yourself

130701:02:17,420 --> 01:02:23,568which a lot of people are doing but

130801:02:19,539 --> 01:02:24,798definitely with us here with me I'm not

130901:02:23,568 --> 01:02:26,389going to be saying that the government's

131001:02:24,798 --> 01:02:28,309doing this or doing this or withholding

131101:02:26,389 --> 01:02:30,949because that you know you'll find


131201:02:28,309 --> 01:02:33,680yourself in trouble fast and so I'm not

131301:02:30,949 --> 01:02:36,529playing it up but I'm sure they know way

131401:02:33,679 --> 01:02:38,480more than us and they get their

131501:02:36,530 --> 01:02:39,769information from us any area so the

131601:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,969regular people we have the pool of

131701:02:39,769 --> 01:02:43,190knowledge all we have to do is just

131801:02:40,969 --> 01:02:45,139concentrate it together then everyone

131901:02:43,190 --> 01:02:46,700will be coming to us but you can't make

132001:02:45,139 --> 01:02:48,108government doing nothing and I'm not

132101:02:46,699 --> 01:02:50,029gonna throw any stones at them by

132201:02:48,108 --> 01:02:54,019telling that they're withholding stuff

132301:02:50,030 --> 01:02:55,940cuz I'm not fighting any government me

132401:02:54,019 --> 01:02:57,679either my friend Eugene I'm gonna get

132501:02:55,940 --> 01:02:59,720you to hold on we're gonna hop out for a


132601:02:57,679 --> 01:03:01,489break here at the top of the hour we're

132701:02:59,719 --> 01:03:04,379gonna continue the et talk before

132801:03:01,489 --> 01:03:07,029getting into some OBEs an NDE

132901:03:04,380 --> 01:03:09,579Eugene Bronson is our guest he's known

133001:03:07,030 --> 01:03:11,650as America's most experienced mystic

133101:03:09,579 --> 01:03:13,480he's on the show tonight you're

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1340


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135401:04:16,338 --> 01:04:22,429


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143101:07:49,278 --> 01:07:53,150with us tonight tomorrow night on the

143201:07:50,989 --> 01:07:54,699show Victor V Gianni will be on we're

143301:07:53,150 --> 01:07:56,660going to talk disclosure

143401:07:54,699 --> 01:07:58,879extraterrestrials and what does the

143501:07:56,659 --> 01:08:00,710government know as he prepares for the

143601:07:58,880 --> 01:08:03,318alien cosmic Expo we're going to be

143701:08:00,710 --> 01:08:05,838talking a lot of ETS and disclosure this

143801:08:03,318 --> 01:08:07,849month leading up to the cosmic Expo it's

143901:08:05,838 --> 01:08:11,900going to be a very intriguing


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144801:08:28,429 --> 01:08:32,060tonight we are talking with Eugene

144901:08:30,170 --> 01:08:35,599Braxton we're talking extraterrestrials

145001:08:32,060 --> 01:08:37,009we're talking NDEs OBEs and any other

145101:08:35,599 --> 01:08:40,000part of the alphabet we can figure out

145201:08:37,009 --> 01:08:42,829and put together eugene welcome back

145301:08:40,000 --> 01:08:45,710thank you I want to start off with a

1454


01:08:42,829 --> 01:08:48,259question from Galen in this SOR space

145501:08:45,710 --> 01:08:50,149travelers on Facebook there have been

145601:08:48,259 --> 01:08:52,310many who have been taken that say they

145701:08:50,149 --> 01:08:55,009are put on a ship being shown how to fly

145801:08:52,310 --> 01:08:56,750it and other tasks why would this happen

145901:08:55,009 --> 01:08:59,259is it something for the future in your

146001:08:56,750 --> 01:08:59,259opinion

146101:09:02,079 --> 01:09:09,670I've heard about people of saying that

146201:09:05,479 --> 01:09:13,068they fly ships I think they may be uh

146301:09:09,670 --> 01:09:17,230maybe checking to see what people's like

146401:09:13,069 --> 01:09:19,580a natural ability might be some might be

146501:09:17,229 --> 01:09:21,559telepathic receivers from might be

146601:09:19,579 --> 01:09:25,219telepathic sender some might be able to

146701:09:21,560 --> 01:09:26,980interface with the UFO and command it I

146801:09:25,219 --> 01:09:32,389


think they might have been trying to

146901:09:26,979 --> 01:09:36,138evaluate the the ability of the subject

147001:09:32,389 --> 01:09:37,190or experiencer hmm that's what I would

147101:09:36,139 --> 01:09:39,289guess I don't think they would

147201:09:37,189 --> 01:09:40,879deliberately let a human have control of

147301:09:39,289 --> 01:09:43,429the ship I'd love to have control of one

147401:09:40,880 --> 01:09:45,409of you Association I'd like to try it

147501:09:43,429 --> 01:09:48,408out too because it's something that I am

147601:09:45,408 --> 01:09:51,769very very intrigued with I know with my

147701:09:48,408 --> 01:09:54,888personal experiences where I have had a

147801:09:51,770 --> 01:09:58,159ship land 150 yards away from me I've

147901:09:54,889 --> 01:10:00,230seen extraterrestrials up close if it

148001:09:58,158 --> 01:10:04,429were to happen now and I wish you know

148101:10:00,229 --> 01:10:07,549hindsight being 20/20 that I knew what I

148201:10:04,429 --> 01:10:09,829know now back then I could guarantee you


148301:10:07,550 --> 01:10:12,650I would we be walking up to the

148401:10:09,829 --> 01:10:15,350extra-terrestrial I'm not sure about the

148501:10:12,649 --> 01:10:17,238ship because there is apparent radiation

148601:10:15,350 --> 01:10:21,650that comes off of those that isn't very

148701:10:17,238 --> 01:10:25,129good for human consumption but the

148801:10:21,649 --> 01:10:29,899extra-terrestrial I definitely would so

148901:10:25,130 --> 01:10:34,909my opinion on this is one of curiosity

149001:10:29,899 --> 01:10:37,759and yet one of an elegant fear if I can

149101:10:34,908 --> 01:10:39,408use that term because you know you still

149201:10:37,760 --> 01:10:42,889have to remind ourselves that we are

149301:10:39,408 --> 01:10:45,529human and we are susceptible to almost

149401:10:42,889 --> 01:10:48,230everything that is out of the norm for

149501:10:45,529 --> 01:10:52,219our own human anatomy

149601:10:48,229 --> 01:10:57,229what do you agree I would and when that


149701:10:52,219 --> 01:10:59,510natural Inklings of primal fear or

149801:10:57,229 --> 01:11:01,879natural Inklings of apprehension come up

149901:10:59,510 --> 01:11:04,489that's our own body's natural way of

150001:11:01,880 --> 01:11:07,340telling us that our spider senses are on

150101:11:04,488 --> 01:11:09,379and to be on the alert to be careful and

150201:11:07,340 --> 01:11:11,960it's good that people feel that and it's

150301:11:09,380 --> 01:11:14,359good that they listen to it because it's

150401:11:11,960 --> 01:11:14,989the feelings and your inner fears inner

150501:11:14,359 --> 01:11:18,019feelings

150601:11:14,989 --> 01:11:21,079we'll always be true and people say you

150701:11:18,020 --> 01:11:23,300know that they may say something about

150801:11:21,079 --> 01:11:25,420say like a dr. Jacobs well he has he's

150901:11:23,300 --> 01:11:30,050coming from the fear angle but you

151001:11:25,420 --> 01:11:35,210there's a fear and ecstasy aspect to the

1511


01:11:30,050 --> 01:11:37,640UFO abduction and if the fear aspect

151201:11:35,210 --> 01:11:39,680comes in naturally whether it be a dog

151301:11:37,640 --> 01:11:43,010in a dog house who sees the UFO or a

151401:11:39,680 --> 01:11:46,400child or an adult or something that's

151501:11:43,010 --> 01:11:48,199not that doesn't mix with our feelings

151601:11:46,399 --> 01:11:51,439when with a lot of us when these things

151701:11:48,199 --> 01:11:53,689are around in our proximity and that's

151801:11:51,439 --> 01:11:55,579an alarm bell that we should take

151901:11:53,689 --> 01:11:57,949careful notice of because it's natural

152001:11:55,579 --> 01:12:01,279and it's it's telling us something you

152101:11:57,949 --> 01:12:04,099know so your fear can keep you alive but

152201:12:01,279 --> 01:12:07,729the reason for the fear and their bodies

152301:12:04,100 --> 01:12:10,570and feelings don't lie to us inside we

152401:12:07,729 --> 01:12:13,549may not listen but they don't like it

152501:12:10,569 --> 01:12:15,979


well let me ask you this then there is a

152601:12:13,550 --> 01:12:20,270lot of debate Eugene right now going on

152701:12:15,979 --> 01:12:23,119about disclosure will it happen this

152801:12:20,270 --> 01:12:25,490year will President Obama be the

152901:12:23,119 --> 01:12:28,220disclosure president do we have to see

153001:12:25,489 --> 01:12:30,829if Hillary if she gets elected will be

153101:12:28,220 --> 01:12:34,550the disclosure president there's a lot

153201:12:30,829 --> 01:12:36,590of media saturation on this right now do

153301:12:34,550 --> 01:12:39,289you believe then taking this on a human

153401:12:36,590 --> 01:12:41,720level that the public as in people who

153501:12:39,289 --> 01:12:43,310listen to this show religious people who

153601:12:41,720 --> 01:12:45,800go to church every Sunday or Saturday

153701:12:43,310 --> 01:12:51,890whatever their date may be do you think

153801:12:45,800 --> 01:13:00,110we are ready for it I percentage-wise

153901:12:51,890 --> 01:13:06,079I think that 45% of the people would be


154001:13:00,109 --> 01:13:09,109ready the other 55 probably 45% of them

154101:13:06,079 --> 01:13:13,909would not be ready and 40 10 may swing

154201:13:09,109 --> 01:13:16,609you know well either way but 45% could

154301:13:13,909 --> 01:13:18,229deal with it 55 percent could not deal

154401:13:16,609 --> 01:13:20,839with or would not want to deal with it

154501:13:18,229 --> 01:13:24,049and can you imagine the craziness some

154601:13:20,840 --> 01:13:27,050people would just some people would not

154701:13:24,050 --> 01:13:28,640be able to handle it and but it does

154801:13:27,050 --> 01:13:30,800help for the

154901:13:28,640 --> 01:13:33,590- no because that knowledge can take

155001:13:30,800 --> 01:13:36,350away fear but they should be told

155101:13:33,590 --> 01:13:38,329something but the to disclose fully

155201:13:36,350 --> 01:13:41,060there to be a lot of people wouldn't be

155301:13:38,329 --> 01:13:42,710able to handle it unless they had people


155401:13:41,060 --> 01:13:45,230who were into it in their families which

155501:13:42,710 --> 01:13:47,779you know a lot of people are into it but

155601:13:45,229 --> 01:13:48,919I think if released slowly tells them

155701:13:47,779 --> 01:13:50,840you know you tell the people going on

155801:13:48,920 --> 01:13:53,149releases slowly to you over a year and a

155901:13:50,840 --> 01:13:54,800half then maybe that would be better but

156001:13:53,149 --> 01:13:56,659there's a lot like you said there's so

156101:13:54,800 --> 01:13:59,600much that they're not that they may have

156201:13:56,659 --> 01:14:02,170and are not won't release that it would

156301:13:59,600 --> 01:14:06,680be too much for us to handle all at once

156401:14:02,170 --> 01:14:10,279because there's a lot of Nestle that's a

156501:14:06,680 --> 01:14:14,090crazy field that UFO thing you know it's

156601:14:10,279 --> 01:14:16,909partly physical partly spiritual partly

156701:14:14,090 --> 01:14:18,890invisible partly so it's it's like a

1568


01:14:16,909 --> 01:14:21,139logical where they get into your head

156901:14:18,890 --> 01:14:24,890get into your dreams you know I have a

157001:14:21,140 --> 01:14:27,590duck shins and soul energy transfer it's

157101:14:24,890 --> 01:14:29,539a lot to that and and and you know so

157201:14:27,590 --> 01:14:32,750little about them and we've seem to be

157301:14:29,539 --> 01:14:34,220just getting ripped by them fully some

157401:14:32,750 --> 01:14:36,590people every time they go to sleep I

157501:14:34,220 --> 01:14:38,360thought just like you said before

157601:14:36,590 --> 01:14:40,550there's a lot of different information

157701:14:38,359 --> 01:14:43,519and a lot of people are saying things

157801:14:40,550 --> 01:14:45,260that they really may not see but there's

157901:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,580the experience is none there's a lot

158001:14:45,260 --> 01:14:49,250happening now it's like they're bubbling

158101:14:46,579 --> 01:14:54,019up over and they have a lot of info and

158201:14:49,250 --> 01:14:56,300


they need more talk centers talk

158301:14:54,020 --> 01:14:59,540programs like this so people can express

158401:14:56,300 --> 01:15:01,340because I know the researchers probably

158501:14:59,539 --> 01:15:03,439listening in considers it value there's

158601:15:01,340 --> 01:15:08,630gold lines of information in the regular

158701:15:03,439 --> 01:15:11,289regular citizen experiencer and the good

158801:15:08,630 --> 01:15:14,989ones they want the scientists want them

158901:15:11,289 --> 01:15:19,159but that UFO thing that's a juggernaut

159001:15:14,989 --> 01:15:22,639of a field well it my concern with it

159101:15:19,159 --> 01:15:24,970Eugene is the fact that if the

159201:15:22,640 --> 01:15:29,140government does come out and disclose

159301:15:24,970 --> 01:15:33,199this opens up a whole can of worms on

159401:15:29,140 --> 01:15:36,350how long they've known yeah were there

159501:15:33,199 --> 01:15:38,689deals cut for technology what about

159601:15:36,350 --> 01:15:40,579human abductions what do people know and


159701:15:38,689 --> 01:15:41,839if they ever came out that the

159801:15:40,579 --> 01:15:42,600government does know that these

159901:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,940abductions are

160001:15:42,600 --> 01:15:47,010happening now we're opening ourselves up

160101:15:44,939 --> 01:15:50,309to millions upon millions of people

160201:15:47,010 --> 01:15:53,000suing the government for allowing it to

160301:15:50,310 --> 01:15:58,100happen it's going to open up a major

160401:15:53,000 --> 01:16:01,260Pandora's box when when it does come out

160501:15:58,100 --> 01:16:03,870yes and that's one reason why they will

160601:16:01,260 --> 01:16:05,670not disclose it that's probably more of

160701:16:03,869 --> 01:16:08,880a reason that what way what you said

160801:16:05,670 --> 01:16:10,949then the other way because they may not

160901:16:08,880 --> 01:16:13,770even really care what people think and

161001:16:10,949 --> 01:16:15,569who knows what they may have learned


161101:16:13,770 --> 01:16:18,240from those aliens that goes so beyond

161201:16:15,569 --> 01:16:22,859what we know that they could not even

161301:16:18,239 --> 01:16:25,529care about us but I knew a female who

161401:16:22,859 --> 01:16:26,969was in the art world but she was with

161501:16:25,529 --> 01:16:31,859this yellow and she said they're about

161601:16:26,970 --> 01:16:33,63080 years ahead of us and with the

161701:16:31,859 --> 01:16:37,979government about what they know about

161801:16:33,630 --> 01:16:39,569the UFOs and aliens but it's a fully

161901:16:37,979 --> 01:16:41,849interesting clear on the scene to just

162001:16:39,569 --> 01:16:44,099keep growing the more you learn about it

162101:16:41,850 --> 01:16:46,500but it's definitely one that there's a

162201:16:44,100 --> 01:16:47,880lot the dark side is so much and it's

162301:16:46,500 --> 01:16:49,680hurting too many people it should be

162401:16:47,880 --> 01:16:51,779fully checked out she in the near-death

1625


01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:54,270the bad side of the near-death those

162601:16:51,779 --> 01:16:57,289dark NDEs they ignored them too they

162701:16:54,270 --> 01:16:59,850were afraid to check them out and

162801:16:57,289 --> 01:17:01,979finally they did and we have to also

162901:16:59,850 --> 01:17:04,680check out the dark side of the UFOs

163001:17:01,979 --> 01:17:06,359because this it's way more darker in the

163101:17:04,680 --> 01:17:10,760UFO settings in the near death the

163201:17:06,359 --> 01:17:14,369near-death is kind of psychological UFO

163301:17:10,760 --> 01:17:18,030and you have to a eugene understand that

163401:17:14,369 --> 01:17:20,760there are secrets there are secrets

163501:17:18,029 --> 01:17:23,399being held like hillary is saying and

163601:17:20,760 --> 01:17:27,270she's gone on publicly if she's elected

163701:17:23,399 --> 01:17:30,420president she will disclose unless it is

163801:17:27,270 --> 01:17:32,460of concern to national security which is

163901:17:30,420 --> 01:17:33,029


the banner she will hide behind for most

164001:17:32,460 --> 01:17:35,550of this

164101:17:33,029 --> 01:17:37,920she will disclose it but there's also

164201:17:35,550 --> 01:17:40,710another piece of blame on this Eugene

164301:17:37,920 --> 01:17:43,170and we're gonna be talking a lot about

164401:17:40,710 --> 01:17:46,770this over the month is the role of the

164501:17:43,170 --> 01:17:48,960media Walter Cronkite Walter Cronkite

164601:17:46,770 --> 01:17:53,580would be rolling over in his grave right

164701:17:48,960 --> 01:17:56,099now knowing that the media in their job

164801:17:53,579 --> 01:17:58,889to be the voice of the public

164901:17:56,099 --> 01:18:01,739drop the ball on what could be the

165001:17:58,889 --> 01:18:04,949biggest story in mankind next to Jesus

165101:18:01,738 --> 01:18:08,238Christ coming back yes when John Podesta

165201:18:04,948 --> 01:18:12,299sent out his tweets starting a year ago

165301:18:08,238 --> 01:18:14,339and then Hillary up because it's only


165401:18:12,300 --> 01:18:16,829been sorry for cutting you off it's only

165501:18:14,340 --> 01:18:20,550bid Eugene the last two three four weeks

165601:18:16,828 --> 01:18:22,590maybe at max that all the sudden we're

165701:18:20,550 --> 01:18:27,360seeing the New York Times the Chicago

165801:18:22,590 --> 01:18:31,099Tribune CNN Fox News ABC NBC starting to

165901:18:27,359 --> 01:18:38,729really pick up what is happening with

166001:18:31,099 --> 01:18:40,440UFOs they like you said there they may

166101:18:38,729 --> 01:18:43,618be the biggest culprit they're the most

166201:18:40,439 --> 01:18:46,738able to do it and the slowest to respond

166301:18:43,618 --> 01:18:48,779we with our near-death research and book

166401:18:46,738 --> 01:18:51,359we decided to go around them just go

166501:18:48,779 --> 01:18:53,130straight to the public and it worked out

166601:18:51,359 --> 01:18:55,109pretty good because when you need them

166701:18:53,130 --> 01:18:57,029they're not around and then you know


166801:18:55,109 --> 01:18:58,589except like this and compared to the

166901:18:57,029 --> 01:19:01,019near-death researchers the UFO

167001:18:58,590 --> 01:19:02,880researchers are way ahead

167101:19:01,020 --> 01:19:04,619you know there's grow it it's growing in

167201:19:02,880 --> 01:19:06,868leaps and bounds what's being discovered

167301:19:04,618 --> 01:19:10,799about the UFOs and aliens compared to

167401:19:06,868 --> 01:19:12,658near-death and the media should help

167501:19:10,800 --> 01:19:15,119they should help there should be one

167601:19:12,658 --> 01:19:16,799space in one newspaper something that

167701:19:15,118 --> 01:19:19,049you know because there's a lot of good

167801:19:16,800 --> 01:19:21,409information in the apology a lot of

167901:19:19,050 --> 01:19:26,460people who know a lot of things

168001:19:21,408 --> 01:19:28,710definitely careful with me so when you

168101:19:26,460 --> 01:19:30,510talk about when you talk about you Gina

1682


01:19:28,710 --> 01:19:33,239you think only about forty five percent

168301:19:30,510 --> 01:19:36,750of people are prepared and ready for

168401:19:33,238 --> 01:19:39,319full disclosure on what we know about

168501:19:36,750 --> 01:19:42,560the extraterrestrial and UFO phenomena

168601:19:39,319 --> 01:19:47,130do you believe then that the other 55%

168701:19:42,560 --> 01:19:53,060are going to cause some sort of Anarchy

168801:19:47,130 --> 01:20:00,029if it does come out of the other 55%

168901:19:53,060 --> 01:20:01,560thirty of them will twenty five half of

169001:20:00,029 --> 01:20:04,710them we'll wait to see how the other

169101:20:01,560 --> 01:20:09,930half reacts and the other half may go to

169201:20:04,710 --> 01:20:13,939the extreme I think see about of the

169301:20:09,930 --> 01:20:16,82955% yeah about half we'll wait to see

169401:20:13,939 --> 01:20:20,250how the other half reacts and then the

169501:20:16,829 --> 01:20:21,479other portion maybe it's about 30 20 but

169601:20:20,250 --> 01:20:24,119


there's going to be a good amount that

169701:20:21,479 --> 01:20:26,309goes wild there's some of people at that

169801:20:24,119 --> 01:20:27,479shift in natures and if some people

169901:20:26,310 --> 01:20:29,550can't handle things

170001:20:27,479 --> 01:20:31,439you know they break down or go off at

170101:20:29,550 --> 01:20:33,360the drop of a hat it's going to be those

170201:20:31,439 --> 01:20:37,379still fragile those brittle

170301:20:33,359 --> 01:20:42,719personalities that will go off and then

170401:20:37,380 --> 01:20:44,340the others might follow but that's one

170501:20:42,720 --> 01:20:46,079reason why they can't tell it'd be just

170601:20:44,340 --> 01:20:49,0502 saga walk there's some people who

170701:20:46,079 --> 01:20:51,180don't even believe in UFOs at all they

170801:20:49,050 --> 01:20:54,539saw one that might fully freak them out

170901:20:51,180 --> 01:20:58,289forever but you've seen a couple and

171001:20:54,539 --> 01:21:00,869I've seen a few and so uh and still that


171101:20:58,289 --> 01:21:02,909stuns us but so the normal citizen who

171201:21:00,869 --> 01:21:04,859doesn't believe in that stuff anything

171301:21:02,909 --> 01:21:07,139they can't see or scientist that would

171401:21:04,859 --> 01:21:08,119stun them it literally changed the world

171501:21:07,140 --> 01:21:10,350because uh

171601:21:08,119 --> 01:21:11,729those after those effects and

171701:21:10,350 --> 01:21:13,350after-effects are strong you never

171801:21:11,729 --> 01:21:15,539forget that when you see the silent

171901:21:13,350 --> 01:21:17,300craft flying over you or just hovering

172001:21:15,539 --> 01:21:21,539there with no sound it's like this

172101:21:17,300 --> 01:21:24,390electric buzz that's all around the area

172201:21:21,539 --> 01:21:26,220and we were about two football fields

172301:21:24,390 --> 01:21:29,850away we could see it clearly there's a

172401:21:26,220 --> 01:21:32,100big one - that's a saucer suit but


172501:21:29,850 --> 01:21:37,140there's everything gets real weird quiet

172601:21:32,100 --> 01:21:40,289there's no birds that fly no cars moved

172701:21:37,140 --> 01:21:41,760and everything just froze in time and

172801:21:40,289 --> 01:21:43,500we're on the highway that has normal

172901:21:41,760 --> 01:21:48,300traffic on it have Saturday night in the

173001:21:43,500 --> 01:21:50,640summer at 8:30 and when we got back our

173101:21:48,300 --> 01:21:54,470friends asked us where we were and it's

173201:21:50,640 --> 01:21:57,780to us seem like a 15 minute ride and we

173301:21:54,470 --> 01:22:00,390subconsciously just buried it in the

173401:21:57,779 --> 01:22:02,969back and and teenagers to that and so

173501:22:00,390 --> 01:22:05,039does experiences that did happen let's

173601:22:02,970 --> 01:22:07,650continue on with the the baseball game

173701:22:05,039 --> 01:22:09,269and then later thought about it and

173801:22:07,649 --> 01:22:10,679remember there was a clear sighting and

1739


01:22:09,270 --> 01:22:15,810probable infection because there were

174001:22:10,680 --> 01:22:18,840some memory issues and the way we both

174101:22:15,810 --> 01:22:20,670acted afterwards I acted out afterwards

174201:22:18,840 --> 01:22:23,519we're only teens like I burst out into

174301:22:20,670 --> 01:22:25,588tears a week or so later from

174401:22:23,519 --> 01:22:28,679that or maybe that same night but they

174501:22:25,588 --> 01:22:32,658uh they're really stressful those

174601:22:28,679 --> 01:22:35,699sightings and there's too much control

174701:22:32,658 --> 01:22:37,288aspect that they have over us you know

174801:22:35,698 --> 01:22:39,868wherever they're kept control of our

174901:22:37,288 --> 01:22:43,198minds we can't move we can't run we

175001:22:39,868 --> 01:22:45,058can't resist back too much I used to

175101:22:43,198 --> 01:22:47,868resist its back with them until I was

175201:22:45,059 --> 01:22:50,548knocked into unconsciousness every time

175301:22:47,868 --> 01:22:53,818


but there was one time where I was able

175401:22:50,548 --> 01:22:57,569to take a good look at them

175501:22:53,819 --> 01:23:02,239and I couldn't believe what I saw I take

175601:22:57,569 --> 01:23:05,189a real look through them you and and

175701:23:02,238 --> 01:23:06,928there's like a way work instead we have

175801:23:05,189 --> 01:23:09,059to become more proactive with these

175901:23:06,929 --> 01:23:11,368things and we can start doing that by

176001:23:09,059 --> 01:23:13,529being more conscious you know in our

176101:23:11,368 --> 01:23:15,898sleep with our dreams and and to

176201:23:13,529 --> 01:23:18,179practice out of bodies we we have to

176301:23:15,899 --> 01:23:20,999start observing these things through

176401:23:18,179 --> 01:23:23,699remote viewing and through how to bodies

176501:23:20,998 --> 01:23:26,068and dreams and we have to get these

176601:23:23,698 --> 01:23:28,948skills so we can monitor these beings

176701:23:26,069 --> 01:23:31,279and keep a track of them and that's


176801:23:28,948 --> 01:23:33,838something that we did in the second book

176901:23:31,279 --> 01:23:35,879which is the second half of one huge

177001:23:33,838 --> 01:23:38,488book I'm originally I wrote a near-death

177101:23:35,878 --> 01:23:41,189and neuro global there's like about one

177201:23:38,488 --> 01:23:42,718500 page book but it was so

177301:23:41,189 --> 01:23:45,088comprehensive I had to split it in half

177401:23:42,719 --> 01:23:47,908and the publishers one or two books

177501:23:45,088 --> 01:23:49,528anyway I thought it'd be easier to but

177601:23:47,908 --> 01:23:52,228the public understand what's happening

177701:23:49,529 --> 01:23:53,669fully with the life after death and in a

177801:23:52,229 --> 01:23:55,378lot of ways that'll help them to

177901:23:53,668 --> 01:23:58,378understand the UFO thing because

178001:23:55,378 --> 01:23:59,908everything is connected and the people

178101:23:58,378 --> 01:24:02,309will soon see when the second book comes


178201:23:59,908 --> 01:24:04,138out but they're into a lot of things and

178301:24:02,309 --> 01:24:07,199they're mainly into us and the energy

178401:24:04,139 --> 01:24:09,929that we can provide them and they there

178501:24:07,198 --> 01:24:11,578they are feasting it's it's bad it's in

178601:24:09,929 --> 01:24:13,798so it's wrong to ignore the people who

178701:24:11,578 --> 01:24:16,918are having distressful abduction since

178801:24:13,798 --> 01:24:18,809it's if you read of the jacobs book the

178901:24:16,918 --> 01:24:22,078threat the stuff that goes on in those

179001:24:18,809 --> 01:24:26,038UFO rooms that they recovered from you

179101:24:22,078 --> 01:24:27,958know regressions is is super demonic for

179201:24:26,038 --> 01:24:31,408example I even need to say it's like the

179301:24:27,958 --> 01:24:33,538gang rape of an eight year old it's just

179401:24:31,408 --> 01:24:37,039things like that it's just crazy and

179501:24:33,538 --> 01:24:39,989that's just one example it

1796


01:24:37,039 --> 01:24:43,199it's easily you can easily see what it

179701:24:39,989 --> 01:24:45,179is once you hear a few of these stories

179801:24:43,199 --> 01:24:46,800there's a lot of confusion too because

179901:24:45,180 --> 01:24:48,810people mistake out of bodies for

180001:24:46,800 --> 01:24:51,989abductions and abductions can be done

180101:24:48,810 --> 01:24:53,910through out-of-body so we need to just

180201:24:51,989 --> 01:24:57,329to find out the basics what these things

180301:24:53,909 --> 01:24:58,829are where they came from how they do

180401:24:57,329 --> 01:25:01,170what they do why they do what they do

180501:24:58,829 --> 01:25:04,350and in our second what we've cleared up

180601:25:01,170 --> 01:25:07,460a lot of those answers especially the

180701:25:04,350 --> 01:25:09,570what who when where and how and also

180801:25:07,460 --> 01:25:13,829they're connected in with another

180901:25:09,569 --> 01:25:15,539paranormal field in a way that it's just

181001:25:13,829 --> 01:25:17,670


beautiful to see and it's so clear that

181101:25:15,539 --> 01:25:18,930just like when you're doing crossover

181201:25:17,670 --> 01:25:20,579personal and you're looking for a word

181301:25:18,930 --> 01:25:23,430and then suddenly it stands out so clear

181401:25:20,579 --> 01:25:26,220once you see the pieces it all fits into

181501:25:23,430 --> 01:25:28,680a place and we have a good hand on what

181601:25:26,220 --> 01:25:32,159these beings are what they want from us

181701:25:28,680 --> 01:25:33,630and a lot of it is not cool you know

181801:25:32,159 --> 01:25:36,359willing you're held against your will

181901:25:33,630 --> 01:25:38,940you're paralyzed psychologically

182001:25:36,359 --> 01:25:41,219traumatized and this happens repeatedly

182101:25:38,939 --> 01:25:43,259it's if there's a lot of craziness in

182201:25:41,220 --> 01:25:45,150the good side of school they can you

182301:25:43,260 --> 01:25:47,190know go and you know do like a

182401:25:45,149 --> 01:25:49,739merry-go-round in a circle with them but


182501:25:47,189 --> 01:25:51,479the bad side is devastatingly these are

182601:25:49,739 --> 01:25:52,679these people where they're afraid to

182701:25:51,479 --> 01:25:55,139come out their houses and they're

182801:25:52,680 --> 01:25:56,610hearing voices and all that so it's good

182901:25:55,140 --> 01:25:58,470for the researchers to look into that

183001:25:56,609 --> 01:26:00,659dark side because they are just feasting

183101:25:58,470 --> 01:26:03,800on done like parasites like a demon

183201:26:00,659 --> 01:26:05,789would and so there's nothing wrong with

183301:26:03,800 --> 01:26:08,010acknowledging just like the Rod Steiger

183401:26:05,789 --> 01:26:10,949when you had them on or brides target

183501:26:08,010 --> 01:26:12,960and he acknowledged the the dark side

183601:26:10,949 --> 01:26:14,429and that's smart to do it's not good

183701:26:12,960 --> 01:26:16,949just to pretend like that you know

183801:26:14,430 --> 01:26:19,890they're not there because they are fully


183901:26:16,949 --> 01:26:23,010there in the form of ghosts spirits and

184001:26:19,890 --> 01:26:25,410they're involved in everything and they

184101:26:23,010 --> 01:26:30,420and they roamed the the paranormal

184201:26:25,409 --> 01:26:32,609corridors at will and these beings are

184301:26:30,420 --> 01:26:35,250the same ones that we that the world

184401:26:32,609 --> 01:26:37,109authorities refer to as the controllers

184501:26:35,250 --> 01:26:39,989and who I call the controlling agent in

184601:26:37,109 --> 01:26:44,460charge so in this second UFO research

184701:26:39,989 --> 01:26:47,029book I decided to track and and follow

184801:26:44,460 --> 01:26:50,260spiritually tracked this controller and

184901:26:47,029 --> 01:26:54,579we had some idea that

185001:26:50,260 --> 01:26:58,900or what it might be and I used a

185101:26:54,579 --> 01:27:04,000two-fold method of tracking and stalking

185201:26:58,899 --> 01:27:07,869this prime controller it was the Supreme

1853


01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:12,630Being as far as life after death or you

185401:27:07,869 --> 01:27:14,920ufology went and emerged with it and

185501:27:12,630 --> 01:27:17,199with that merging process it's a

185601:27:14,920 --> 01:27:19,480two-fold process I always say merge but

185701:27:17,199 --> 01:27:21,309there's another aspect of it that I

185801:27:19,479 --> 01:27:23,199don't mention but it's a two-fold

185901:27:21,310 --> 01:27:27,700process it allows you to become one with

186001:27:23,199 --> 01:27:30,220them and usually after a UFO or psychic

186101:27:27,699 --> 01:27:33,519or near-death experience that brings out

186201:27:30,220 --> 01:27:36,780that synesthesia or merging ability in

186301:27:33,520 --> 01:27:39,460people and of course it can be in hand

186401:27:36,779 --> 01:27:41,949and enhances yourself naturally through

186501:27:39,460 --> 01:27:42,939time after a psychic experience and you

186601:27:41,949 --> 01:27:44,559can do other things

186701:27:42,939 --> 01:27:47,889


psychic solutions that could bring it

186801:27:44,560 --> 01:27:50,470out but so I've merged with this

186901:27:47,890 --> 01:27:55,210controlling agent in charge to ascertain

187001:27:50,470 --> 01:27:57,930what it was and and who it was all at

187101:27:55,210 --> 01:28:00,220once and usually when you get divine

187201:27:57,930 --> 01:28:02,110revelations you know you comprehend

187301:28:00,220 --> 01:28:06,550everything all at once it's the answer

187401:28:02,109 --> 01:28:10,449just comes and you get used to it but so

187501:28:06,550 --> 01:28:17,220we found out a lot about these aliens

187601:28:10,449 --> 01:28:19,689and we used these merging system and

187701:28:17,220 --> 01:28:21,610that's and just like I said with the

187801:28:19,689 --> 01:28:23,829dreams remote viewings that there are

187901:28:21,609 --> 01:28:25,599ways where we can monitor it's not like

188001:28:23,829 --> 01:28:27,989they always have to monitor us we can

188101:28:25,600 --> 01:28:30,250also monitor them not necessarily


188201:28:27,989 --> 01:28:32,469individually but as a group and learn

188301:28:30,250 --> 01:28:34,449more about them because you just in that

188401:28:32,470 --> 01:28:39,210spiritual way and that would be the way

188501:28:34,449 --> 01:28:41,289that we do honor to them you absorb

188601:28:39,210 --> 01:28:43,449information just by being in their

188701:28:41,289 --> 01:28:47,380presence especially if you consciously

188801:28:43,449 --> 01:28:50,649decide to question something or you

188901:28:47,380 --> 01:28:52,659constantly consciously decide to absorb

189001:28:50,649 --> 01:28:56,829information about a certain aspect of

189101:28:52,659 --> 01:28:59,409their psychology or hypnose anything but

189201:28:56,829 --> 01:29:03,100the more we learn to use our own unique

189301:28:59,409 --> 01:29:06,279abilities the more we can easily see

189401:29:03,100 --> 01:29:07,840observed either interact and and merge

189501:29:06,279 --> 01:29:10,840with these beings and then when you


189601:29:07,840 --> 01:29:13,119emerges on you comprehend its essence

189701:29:10,840 --> 01:29:15,630its nature all at once and you feel it

189801:29:13,119 --> 01:29:22,539too so there's no lying in that

189901:29:15,630 --> 01:29:24,699spiritual you know we did merge into

190001:29:22,539 --> 01:29:28,659something and that's that's one way we

190101:29:24,699 --> 01:29:31,119can have a handle or these people know

190201:29:28,659 --> 01:29:33,970more about these earrings so big merging

190301:29:31,119 --> 01:29:36,369process and all people can do it

190401:29:33,970 --> 01:29:38,350we can't just lay back and let them you

190501:29:36,369 --> 01:29:42,039know do anything they wanted because

190601:29:38,350 --> 01:29:45,220they it's ridiculously demon the good

190701:29:42,039 --> 01:29:47,590ones are cool and people learn off but

190801:29:45,220 --> 01:29:49,449they don't teach us everything some of

190901:29:47,590 --> 01:29:51,069the big questions like leave it if

1910


01:29:49,449 --> 01:29:52,539they're so well with us they haven't

191101:29:51,069 --> 01:29:55,569taught us anything about cancer how to

191201:29:52,539 --> 01:29:58,210cured you know any all these diseases

191301:29:55,569 --> 01:29:59,739war growing crops any of that stuff they

191401:29:58,210 --> 01:30:03,359haven't helped with this all they do is

191501:29:59,739 --> 01:30:07,949extract us and direct us to the next

191601:30:03,359 --> 01:30:11,349holding page it's one Kathleen Turner

191701:30:07,949 --> 01:30:14,679said that it was like a assembly line

191801:30:11,350 --> 01:30:16,180and it's it is like that but that the

191901:30:14,680 --> 01:30:17,890more we develop our dreams

192001:30:16,180 --> 01:30:20,950Edda products in their most reeling

192101:30:17,890 --> 01:30:23,110skills the more easily we can see these

192201:30:20,949 --> 01:30:25,989things for that they are and they're

192301:30:23,109 --> 01:30:29,409kind of like spiritual beings that some

192401:30:25,989 --> 01:30:31,359


are good and some just prey on us but

192501:30:29,409 --> 01:30:36,059the energy for them and they don't want

192601:30:31,359 --> 01:30:39,969to go and they're all the insects

192701:30:36,060 --> 01:30:45,400spiritual beings but these beings come

192801:30:39,970 --> 01:30:48,520on no don't have souls so in time they

192901:30:45,399 --> 01:30:50,529will die look at that final death they

193001:30:48,520 --> 01:30:54,490will die affect humans have that after

193101:30:50,529 --> 01:30:57,329that eternal soul capacity and that's

193201:30:54,489 --> 01:30:57,329what they want

193301:30:58,619 --> 01:31:03,489Eugene I'm gonna get you to speak a

193401:31:01,270 --> 01:31:05,560little bit closer to your microphone on

193501:31:03,489 --> 01:31:07,899your phone there because sounding a

193601:31:05,560 --> 01:31:09,580little bit muffle if you don't mind but

193701:31:07,899 --> 01:31:11,019while we're doing that we're gonna hop

193801:31:09,579 --> 01:31:13,239out for a break here at the bottom of


193901:31:11,020 --> 01:31:15,790the hour we have a really good question

194001:31:13,239 --> 01:31:18,729in the space out radio chat room

194101:31:15,789 --> 01:31:20,590on Spreaker that comes from one of our

194201:31:18,729 --> 01:31:22,869listeners Knick Knack in there I want to

194301:31:20,590 --> 01:31:25,060get to that Eric also has a question in

194401:31:22,869 --> 01:31:26,649paranormal form as well we're going to

194501:31:25,060 --> 01:31:27,640get to that one right after the break

194601:31:26,649 --> 01:31:30,369our guest tonight

194701:31:27,640 --> 01:31:33,310Eugene Braxton America's most

194801:31:30,369 --> 01:31:35,409experienced mystic he's with us for the

194901:31:33,310 --> 01:31:39,570entire show tonight we will get back to

195001:31:35,409 --> 01:31:41,559you gene and you right after this break

195101:31:39,569 --> 01:31:44,250have you ever had an extraterrestrial

195201:31:41,560 --> 01:31:46,150experience one you just couldn't explain


195301:31:44,250 --> 01:31:49,689well maybe I can help

195401:31:46,149 --> 01:31:51,519hello I am Samantha mullet on the second

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207701:36:56,038 --> 01:37:00,328we are talking with Eugene Braxton he is

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207901:37:00,328 --> 01:37:04,439mystic we got a couple questions to

208001:37:02,460 --> 01:37:06,109start off this half-hour for you Eugene

2081


01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:09,299we're gonna start with Eric in

208201:37:06,109 --> 01:37:12,359paranormal forum he is asking is there

208301:37:09,300 --> 01:37:16,190an effective way to invite contact in

208401:37:12,359 --> 01:37:16,189with extraterrestrials that you know of

208501:37:16,639 --> 01:37:28,199an effective way to invite them yes well

208601:37:25,590 --> 01:37:35,429I know a lot of people are doing this

208701:37:28,198 --> 01:37:38,698summoning thing I've seen where that

208801:37:35,429 --> 01:37:40,020could be possible and I have a high

208901:37:38,698 --> 01:37:44,038school friend who wants to try it with

209001:37:40,020 --> 01:37:52,079me as well as it said in Pittsburgh but

209101:37:44,038 --> 01:37:55,170I would try to contact them summoning

209201:37:52,078 --> 01:37:57,658would probably be the best way I think

209301:37:55,170 --> 01:37:59,760for a person because and that's the

209401:37:57,658 --> 01:38:02,908person it's kind of practiced for like a

209501:37:59,760 --> 01:38:04,960


year or two I wouldn't try to a contact

209601:38:02,908 --> 01:38:07,029them in spiritually or an ash

209701:38:04,960 --> 01:38:09,760form or in green form because you

209801:38:07,029 --> 01:38:12,449wouldn't have as much consciousness but

209901:38:09,760 --> 01:38:16,210you'd be more awake to contact them

210001:38:12,449 --> 01:38:19,689consciously awake if you'd have a little

210101:38:16,210 --> 01:38:21,880bit more control but that would that

210201:38:19,689 --> 01:38:25,719would be the way I would do it just

210301:38:21,880 --> 01:38:28,680contact them some of them physically

210401:38:25,719 --> 01:38:32,020that's some friends - mm-hmm

210501:38:28,680 --> 01:38:34,840because I've heard that sometimes things

210601:38:32,020 --> 01:38:37,480act in the way that you whatever your

210701:38:34,840 --> 01:38:40,420kind of preset emotion is at that time

210801:38:37,479 --> 01:38:42,218but other times they don't it's good if

210901:38:40,420 --> 01:38:43,930you can keep emotionless when these


211001:38:42,219 --> 01:38:46,090things happen but it's hard to with the

211101:38:43,930 --> 01:38:49,989UFO thing they usually perhaps some kind

211201:38:46,090 --> 01:38:52,210of feelings another question from Nick

211301:38:49,988 --> 01:38:53,889knack in the space over radio chat room

211401:38:52,210 --> 01:38:56,500on Spreaker and I think this is a pretty

211501:38:53,890 --> 01:38:59,320darn good question Eugene

211601:38:56,500 --> 01:39:01,899could you please profile a person

211701:38:59,319 --> 01:39:04,059belonging in the 55% group that you

211801:39:01,899 --> 01:39:06,250speak of that will not be ready for

211901:39:04,060 --> 01:39:09,489disclosure do you believe they are a

212001:39:06,250 --> 01:39:11,020highly religious person uneducated do

212101:39:09,488 --> 01:39:14,339you believe they live in a first or

212201:39:11,020 --> 01:39:17,469third world country he's just curious

212301:39:14,340 --> 01:39:21,010yeah I know I know Nick knack from the


212401:39:17,469 --> 01:39:23,319tech groups he's pretty cool no I don't

212501:39:21,010 --> 01:39:25,420think it has so much to do it's like the

212601:39:23,319 --> 01:39:28,449social level I think it has to do with

212701:39:25,420 --> 01:39:31,449more the stability of personality the

212801:39:28,449 --> 01:39:33,760education does help but in some times

212901:39:31,449 --> 01:39:35,229with these experiences the education can

213001:39:33,760 --> 01:39:37,659hurt because they're thinking way too

213101:39:35,229 --> 01:39:40,209much and a lot of these things can just

213201:39:37,659 --> 01:39:43,000be observed and felt to be

213301:39:40,210 --> 01:39:44,770interactiveness a lot of times our

213401:39:43,000 --> 01:39:50,909thinking will get in the way of the

213501:39:44,770 --> 01:39:52,090emotional interaction or feeling but and

213601:39:50,909 --> 01:39:54,279Dave

213701:39:52,090 --> 01:39:56,770repeat the question from you can you

2138


01:39:54,279 --> 01:40:01,659when we were talking earlier in regards

213901:39:56,770 --> 01:40:03,820to the thought of disclosure you said

214001:40:01,659 --> 01:40:06,279you don't believe that about 55% of the

214101:40:03,819 --> 01:40:09,819people are not ready for yet so he is

214201:40:06,279 --> 01:40:11,829wondering okay if you believe who

214301:40:09,819 --> 01:40:14,979belongs to that group profile them are

214401:40:11,829 --> 01:40:16,300they highly religious uneducated did

214501:40:14,979 --> 01:40:18,909they live in a first or third world

214601:40:16,300 --> 01:40:20,230country yeah

214701:40:18,909 --> 01:40:22,180I don't think it's anything like that I

214801:40:20,229 --> 01:40:27,809think it's more as a person I think they

214901:40:22,180 --> 01:40:31,420would be uh easily upset usually a

215001:40:27,810 --> 01:40:35,050physically weaker or easily able to get

215101:40:31,420 --> 01:40:38,170sick not healthy and robust I think

215201:40:35,050 --> 01:40:41,289


they'd be a emotionally unstable or

215301:40:38,170 --> 01:40:46,750unbalanced not all of them but I think

215401:40:41,289 --> 01:40:48,609they'd be a has a fear back make sure

215501:40:46,750 --> 01:40:50,739where they're afraid of anything or

215601:40:48,609 --> 01:40:55,869everything but does the brittle

215701:40:50,739 --> 01:40:57,670personality the tendency to get upset at

215801:40:55,869 --> 01:41:01,510the slightest thing there's a lack of

215901:40:57,670 --> 01:41:03,960any kind of emotional controls that more

216001:41:01,510 --> 01:41:06,310than the social level I think it's the

216101:41:03,960 --> 01:41:08,800stability or the cement nosov the

216201:41:06,310 --> 01:41:10,720personality that would depend on who

216301:41:08,800 --> 01:41:13,449goes off the less stable ones would

216401:41:10,720 --> 01:41:16,180definitely go off quicker and the stable

216501:41:13,449 --> 01:41:17,619ones may not go off at all but those

216601:41:16,180 --> 01:41:21,789unbalanced ones and they're usually


216701:41:17,619 --> 01:41:23,769fractured they may be loners they may

216801:41:21,789 --> 01:41:25,510not be they may be regular normal people

216901:41:23,770 --> 01:41:28,380to just freak at something that's

217001:41:25,510 --> 01:41:30,850outside of the comprehension but usually

217101:41:28,380 --> 01:41:36,430they're the ones who are brittle easily

217201:41:30,850 --> 01:41:41,890upset usually frightened easily misled

217301:41:36,430 --> 01:41:45,250or gullible and would take things at

217401:41:41,890 --> 01:41:49,450first glance or who reacts without

217501:41:45,250 --> 01:41:51,250thinking but yeah there's unless the

217601:41:49,449 --> 01:41:53,550more practical person a letís will go up

217701:41:51,250 --> 01:41:53,550first

217801:41:54,180 --> 01:41:58,960do you believe then that that is a

217901:41:56,380 --> 01:42:00,880danger to the rest of society do you

218001:41:58,960 --> 01:42:02,680believe that there's going to be Anarchy


218101:42:00,880 --> 01:42:05,199roaming around the streets people

218201:42:02,680 --> 01:42:07,780shattering windows causing all sorts of

218301:42:05,199 --> 01:42:09,819chaos shooting at everything in the sky

218401:42:07,779 --> 01:42:11,679whether it's an airplane helicopter

218501:42:09,819 --> 01:42:14,979because remember during Hurricane

218601:42:11,680 --> 01:42:17,740Katrina when the rescuers were finally

218701:42:14,979 --> 01:42:20,049coming in to New Orleans and the

218801:42:17,739 --> 01:42:22,300surrounding areas there were people

218901:42:20,050 --> 01:42:25,779shooting at police helicopters news

219001:42:22,300 --> 01:42:31,060helicopters airplanes the military it

219101:42:25,779 --> 01:42:32,679was absolute bedlam do you believe that

219201:42:31,060 --> 01:42:36,640would be worse

219301:42:32,680 --> 01:42:37,840of that 55% half would take advantage

219401:42:36,640 --> 01:42:39,490I used to work with the police and

2195


01:42:37,840 --> 01:42:41,890they're pretty good on percentages on

219601:42:39,489 --> 01:42:46,569what they think what happened the 55%

219701:42:41,890 --> 01:42:50,680who wouldn't like the disclosure news in

219801:42:46,569 --> 01:42:52,599the ensuing riots or trying to contained

219901:42:50,680 --> 01:42:56,140the people they would take full

220001:42:52,600 --> 01:42:59,230advantage of the wildness yes and

220101:42:56,140 --> 01:43:02,140wealthy and a lot of people would start

220201:42:59,229 --> 01:43:05,349to stock up stuff in being a fear of

220301:43:02,140 --> 01:43:06,490home invasion or include of the Martians

220401:43:05,350 --> 01:43:09,190huh

220501:43:06,489 --> 01:43:11,349but there'd be a lot of very super fear

220601:43:09,189 --> 01:43:13,839because nothing can freaking person out

220701:43:11,350 --> 01:43:15,970more than the supernatural especially of

220801:43:13,840 --> 01:43:19,900invaders from another planet just like

220901:43:15,970 --> 01:43:22,000


the Orson Welles thing but 55% would go

221001:43:19,899 --> 01:43:23,559off or go a while they pack their cars

221101:43:22,000 --> 01:43:27,640they head for the mountains and get guns

221201:43:23,560 --> 01:43:30,430and the the other 45% would bulk up with

221301:43:27,640 --> 01:43:32,770protection out of fear of them you know

221401:43:30,430 --> 01:43:35,230because you go you would need a car you

221501:43:32,770 --> 01:43:37,480need ammo you need cash and that would

221601:43:35,229 --> 01:43:40,929be wild but I think the government has

221701:43:37,479 --> 01:43:42,939containment systems with FEMA and the

221801:43:40,930 --> 01:43:45,100state police they're all they would link

221901:43:42,939 --> 01:43:47,769up in the event of a national thing like

222001:43:45,100 --> 01:43:49,960that whether it be a city authorizing or

222101:43:47,770 --> 01:43:52,090some kind of UFO thing they would

222201:43:49,960 --> 01:43:56,289contain you I believe even if they have

222301:43:52,090 --> 01:44:01,779the glow of the city so the public is


222401:43:56,289 --> 01:44:04,600kind of stuck but of the 55% half of

222501:44:01,779 --> 01:44:06,189those would get involved in larceny and

222601:44:04,600 --> 01:44:08,980troublemaking if they could to take

222701:44:06,189 --> 01:44:11,229advantage and then 13 percent of that

222801:44:08,979 --> 01:44:13,77925% would simply go crazy hang

222901:44:11,229 --> 01:44:15,639themselves go off we have enough people

223001:44:13,779 --> 01:44:19,599of going off walking down the streets

223101:44:15,640 --> 01:44:21,160naked and so definitely a 55% couldn't

223201:44:19,600 --> 01:44:25,260handle it with freaked out start

223301:44:21,159 --> 01:44:28,569drinking half of them would go crazy and

223401:44:25,260 --> 01:44:30,190another 13% to take advantage by robbing

223501:44:28,569 --> 01:44:32,019and stealing everything that could in

223601:44:30,189 --> 01:44:34,869the ensuing craziness them I could black

223701:44:32,020 --> 01:44:36,490out it would be wild that's why they


223801:44:34,869 --> 01:44:38,619think they can't even take a chance of

223901:44:36,489 --> 01:44:40,630telling because you know how they see if

224001:44:38,619 --> 01:44:43,930they see it as the regular Archie

224101:44:40,630 --> 01:44:46,060Bunker's or Homer Simpson's or earth

224201:44:43,930 --> 01:44:46,480goals or whoever but they don't see the

224301:44:46,060 --> 01:44:48,280public

224401:44:46,479 --> 01:44:50,829as they really are the public has some

224501:44:48,279 --> 01:44:53,800bright individuals in it and but they

224601:44:50,829 --> 01:44:55,449see us with all this dumb audience you

224701:44:53,800 --> 01:44:56,710know Tonight Show or something audience

224801:44:55,449 --> 01:45:00,399and they're not like that they're the

224901:44:56,710 --> 01:45:02,380opposite of those kind of audiences so

225001:45:00,399 --> 01:45:05,199they're not going to tell us nothing we

225101:45:02,380 --> 01:45:06,550have to either get it from the truth or

2252


01:45:05,199 --> 01:45:08,649somehow get it from them but they're not

225301:45:06,550 --> 01:45:10,420going to get the regular people there if

225401:45:08,649 --> 01:45:13,210you're in power you had this kind of

225501:45:10,420 --> 01:45:15,069esoteric forbidden secrets you're not

225601:45:13,210 --> 01:45:17,199going to just tell any farmer or any

225701:45:15,069 --> 01:45:18,789inner-city ghetto Klown those kind of

225801:45:17,199 --> 01:45:19,988deep secrets that could change the world

225901:45:18,789 --> 01:45:22,140they're just not going to do it

226001:45:19,988 --> 01:45:24,369there's too much knowledge there and

226101:45:22,140 --> 01:45:26,170they don't you know the government's

226201:45:24,369 --> 01:45:28,689don't share is it well they got people

226301:45:26,170 --> 01:45:31,539lying in the streets here and maybe in

226401:45:28,689 --> 01:45:33,729Canada homeless and stuff and they don't

226501:45:31,539 --> 01:45:35,500as well but you can't go against them

226601:45:33,729 --> 01:45:37,599


even though they may not care fully but

226701:45:35,500 --> 01:45:39,300you can't go against them so kind of

226801:45:37,600 --> 01:45:42,130stuck it's better for us to just as

226901:45:39,300 --> 01:45:44,529experiences and researchers just go and

227001:45:42,130 --> 01:45:46,989do our own findings the government will

227101:45:44,529 --> 01:45:48,609soon come to a to us because we're the

227201:45:46,988 --> 01:45:50,859only ones who really know because

227301:45:48,609 --> 01:45:54,549they're the ones who go through it so we

227401:45:50,859 --> 01:45:56,469got to keep that experiential power and

227501:45:54,550 --> 01:45:58,989in fact even if you have to from

227601:45:56,470 --> 01:46:00,850unscrupulous researchers who will

227701:45:58,988 --> 01:46:03,689classify the experiencer who gave them

227801:46:00,850 --> 01:46:05,770all that information as subject X and

227901:46:03,689 --> 01:46:08,319they go and write some book and are

228001:46:05,770 --> 01:46:10,720sitting with Oprah so the experience


228101:46:08,319 --> 01:46:12,579have to learn to protect themselves and

228201:46:10,720 --> 01:46:14,770they have some valuable information and

228301:46:12,579 --> 01:46:17,069they should write it down and think

228401:46:14,770 --> 01:46:20,230about it and and see what other people

228501:46:17,069 --> 01:46:23,079but the in spirit experiences are the

228601:46:20,229 --> 01:46:27,099ones that the last info and the things

228701:46:23,079 --> 01:46:29,019that they really don't know a lot if

228801:46:27,100 --> 01:46:31,000they had that god factor helping them

228901:46:29,020 --> 01:46:33,220with their research Albert Einstein

229001:46:31,000 --> 01:46:35,350believed the gugg when he died in the

229101:46:33,220 --> 01:46:37,270end the admit that there's no way this

229201:46:35,350 --> 01:46:39,610universe could be made without that and

229301:46:37,270 --> 01:46:44,470everything is arranged in such a way

229401:46:39,609 --> 01:46:46,630that it's perfect so it's tough but the


229501:46:44,470 --> 01:46:48,909disclosure thing forget that they don't

229601:46:46,630 --> 01:46:50,529have to tell us so they won't they don't

229701:46:48,909 --> 01:46:53,319have to they're not and not those kind

229801:46:50,529 --> 01:46:55,719of secret you know who knows what they

229901:46:53,319 --> 01:46:57,488know levitation the time travel they

230001:46:55,719 --> 01:46:59,140could make it though but we're not going

230101:46:57,488 --> 01:47:00,428to be able to get it from them and the

230201:46:59,140 --> 01:47:02,650more we keep bugging them

230301:47:00,429 --> 01:47:04,300and we're gonna see some silence clowns

230401:47:02,649 --> 01:47:06,488because when you start saying the CIA

230501:47:04,300 --> 01:47:08,409did this and the FBI did this this stage

230601:47:06,488 --> 01:47:09,849identified did this those plans are

230701:47:08,408 --> 01:47:12,460going to hear it and then I start

230801:47:09,850 --> 01:47:15,460tracking and in this field that UFO

2309


01:47:12,460 --> 01:47:17,920field you know they kill clowns so you

231001:47:15,460 --> 01:47:19,989gotta watch it be better to not wave the

231101:47:17,920 --> 01:47:21,579finger at the government actually you

231201:47:19,988 --> 01:47:22,809can request it and they'll still deny it

231301:47:21,579 --> 01:47:24,369but it's best to go get the information

231401:47:22,810 --> 01:47:26,710yourself there's always someone in

231501:47:24,369 --> 01:47:27,969Pennsylvania or Canada who knows what's

231601:47:26,710 --> 01:47:29,289happening it's better to get it from the

231701:47:27,969 --> 01:47:31,448real people they're the ones who know

231801:47:29,289 --> 01:47:33,670but I wouldn't wait for any disclosure

231901:47:31,448 --> 01:47:35,549thing from the government you can't even

232001:47:33,670 --> 01:47:39,130hardly get medical insurance from them

232101:47:35,550 --> 01:47:40,989you know what I wouldn't I wouldn't

232201:47:39,130 --> 01:47:42,640attack them either you know there's like

232301:47:40,988 --> 01:47:45,939


people working behind this desk - it's

232401:47:42,640 --> 01:47:47,320not like some machine the machine but it

232501:47:45,939 --> 01:47:48,729doesn't make any sense to attack the

232601:47:47,319 --> 01:47:50,229government of your own country getting

232701:47:48,729 --> 01:47:54,579some trouble no matter where you look at

232801:47:50,229 --> 01:47:59,289all let's start let's start switching at

232901:47:54,579 --> 01:48:01,090yours here Eugene okay question from one

233001:47:59,289 --> 01:48:03,340of our listeners in this space out radio

233101:48:01,090 --> 01:48:09,100chat room on Spreaker goes by tripping

233201:48:03,340 --> 01:48:12,310fool he sees shadow people and he is

233301:48:09,100 --> 01:48:15,300wondering and asking you how can we tell

233401:48:12,310 --> 01:48:22,090if it's an alien or ghost when we see a

233501:48:15,300 --> 01:48:25,420cloaked or invisible figure outline okay

233601:48:22,090 --> 01:48:27,789yes I have talking of tripping on the

233701:48:25,420 --> 01:48:31,300chat not to say hide one that's a good


233801:48:27,789 --> 01:48:36,359question I used to not even believe in

233901:48:31,300 --> 01:48:36,360like these shadow people and stuff but

234001:48:37,560 --> 01:48:42,699when I was young occasionally I'd see

234101:48:40,238 --> 01:48:43,988something what I thought I saw something

234201:48:42,698 --> 01:48:47,500out the corner of my eye but when I got

234301:48:43,988 --> 01:48:48,729older in the forties now I'm in my

234401:48:47,500 --> 01:48:50,920fifties now when I got older I

234501:48:48,729 --> 01:48:52,689definitely started to seeing what the

234601:48:50,920 --> 01:48:54,550people refer to as shadow beings and you

234701:48:52,689 --> 01:48:57,428can literally see that like because I I

234801:48:54,550 --> 01:48:58,719saw one the thing is not to move what

234901:48:57,429 --> 01:49:01,420can you see them usually a person will

235001:48:58,719 --> 01:49:03,850turn their head and when you want to do

235101:49:01,420 --> 01:49:05,649that move and somehow they disappear so


235201:49:03,850 --> 01:49:07,600I said and I was in my room one night

235301:49:05,649 --> 01:49:10,988and I saw what looked like a blur of

235401:49:07,600 --> 01:49:13,060movement small I'm writing about the

235501:49:10,988 --> 01:49:14,049baseboard height moving out the corner

235601:49:13,060 --> 01:49:15,550of my eye

235701:49:14,050 --> 01:49:17,289new I saw because I have good eyes and

235801:49:15,550 --> 01:49:19,270they don't play tricks like that usually

235901:49:17,289 --> 01:49:21,368when people think they see something if

236001:49:19,270 --> 01:49:23,320they usually do because the either or

236101:49:21,368 --> 01:49:25,598maybe they saw something that reflecting

236201:49:23,319 --> 01:49:29,019something the eyes are pretty good super

236301:49:25,599 --> 01:49:30,670cameras and they pick up stuff sometimes

236401:49:29,020 --> 01:49:32,619even we don't know that they did but I

236501:49:30,670 --> 01:49:34,000saw something so I said this time I'm

2366


01:49:32,618 --> 01:49:36,368not going to move I was watching TV and

236701:49:34,000 --> 01:49:38,618I could see it out of the peripheral so

236801:49:36,368 --> 01:49:41,710I stayed in the same position and I saw

236901:49:38,618 --> 01:49:44,439it take the second movement so it ran

237001:49:41,710 --> 01:49:46,569along the corner of the baseboard in the

237101:49:44,439 --> 01:49:47,919room where I was and I didn't move and

237201:49:46,569 --> 01:49:50,408then I could see a run down the second

237301:49:47,920 --> 01:49:53,078corner it took like a look you know so

237401:49:50,408 --> 01:49:54,819it got oh halfway around the room and so

237501:49:53,078 --> 01:49:56,859I knew I saw at that time that was this

237601:49:54,819 --> 01:49:59,130year but I see those things flipping

237701:49:56,859 --> 01:50:02,139around and they point out of eyesight

237801:49:59,130 --> 01:50:05,190but the person definitely knows that

237901:50:02,139 --> 01:50:07,599they're there cuz you can see them and I

238001:50:05,189 --> 01:50:09,189


it's weird with those little things I

238101:50:07,599 --> 01:50:10,420was laying in my bed one bed one night

238201:50:09,189 --> 01:50:15,960that's like quarter at 3:00 in the

238301:50:10,420 --> 01:50:18,039morning and well I won't even tell that

238401:50:15,960 --> 01:50:21,609learning that I've heard other people

238501:50:18,039 --> 01:50:24,069talk about these little nutty shadows

238601:50:21,609 --> 01:50:27,219with little beings but the shadow people

238701:50:24,069 --> 01:50:29,289I've seen them and the best thing I

238801:50:27,219 --> 01:50:30,939could say is to when you see them or

238901:50:29,289 --> 01:50:32,439think you do try not to move to turn

239001:50:30,939 --> 01:50:34,388your head because they seem to stop then

239101:50:32,439 --> 01:50:35,738I disappear it's like when you look at

239201:50:34,389 --> 01:50:38,109them then you can't say but when you

239301:50:35,738 --> 01:50:40,328don't look or use that side vision then

239401:50:38,109 --> 01:50:42,158you can see and I saw one he moved and


239501:50:40,328 --> 01:50:44,229then he moved again when he when I

239601:50:42,158 --> 01:50:46,000didn't move my vision when he thought I

239701:50:44,229 --> 01:50:48,638wasn't looking he moved again and that

239801:50:46,000 --> 01:50:49,929time I saw but those are some weird

239901:50:48,639 --> 01:50:51,550things and you wonder what they are

240001:50:49,929 --> 01:50:53,170since they're so little you're not

240101:50:51,550 --> 01:50:56,230afraid of them but they move really

240201:50:53,170 --> 01:50:59,828quick and you definitely see them so

240301:50:56,229 --> 01:51:02,379that's like a oddity that in people

240401:50:59,828 --> 01:51:03,729they're coming around more and what's a

240501:51:02,380 --> 01:51:08,289question whether I thought that they

240601:51:03,729 --> 01:51:10,808would being into him yeah he was

240701:51:08,289 --> 01:51:14,618wondering if you're able to tell if they

240801:51:10,809 --> 01:51:17,380are cloaked or invisible beings if they


240901:51:14,618 --> 01:51:21,399are of extraterrestrial descent or of

241001:51:17,380 --> 01:51:23,980spiritual descent okay I think the one

241101:51:21,399 --> 01:51:25,658the ones the one I saw seemed to be

241201:51:23,979 --> 01:51:27,698cloaked you could see the outline but

241301:51:25,658 --> 01:51:31,029nothing really in the middle

241401:51:27,698 --> 01:51:32,469except something darkish but you can see

241501:51:31,029 --> 01:51:34,210the outline of some kind of little

241601:51:32,469 --> 01:51:36,369figure running and he was moving like

241701:51:34,210 --> 01:51:42,730sprinting like the flash the comic-book

241801:51:36,369 --> 01:51:44,198hero as far as being what the origin of

241901:51:42,729 --> 01:51:48,909those things are sometimes it's better

242001:51:44,198 --> 01:51:51,899to not even wonder and just observe what

242101:51:48,909 --> 01:51:54,448the thing does or your reaction to it

242201:51:51,899 --> 01:51:56,738sometimes it's not good to always try to

2423


01:51:54,448 --> 01:52:00,189analyze things sometimes just good to

242401:51:56,738 --> 01:52:02,979like let the experience happen but if

242501:52:00,189 --> 01:52:06,698it's not readily apparent then you have

242601:52:02,979 --> 01:52:08,319a deep you know dig deeper but as long

242701:52:06,698 --> 01:52:10,960as the person can verify that they

242801:52:08,319 --> 01:52:12,909literally actually saw it and it wasn't

242901:52:10,960 --> 01:52:14,319an illusion a hallucination because they

243001:52:12,909 --> 01:52:18,460were first-year or had too much beer

243101:52:14,319 --> 01:52:20,590then that that's really all that that's

243201:52:18,460 --> 01:52:22,060necessary at that moment and then you

243301:52:20,590 --> 01:52:23,920want to look to look for it again

243401:52:22,060 --> 01:52:28,060because it chances are it will probably

243501:52:23,920 --> 01:52:29,920show up again and but because I've seen

243601:52:28,060 --> 01:52:31,620those shadow things flitting about the

243701:52:29,920 --> 01:52:34,029


cornice and you get so used to them

243801:52:31,619 --> 01:52:36,130after you you can almost ignore them or

243901:52:34,029 --> 01:52:38,529pass along but you wonder what the hell

244001:52:36,130 --> 01:52:40,210they are like scrambling around the you

244101:52:38,529 --> 01:52:43,779know your ankles like that and moving

244201:52:40,210 --> 01:52:46,779quick we could barely see them but

244301:52:43,779 --> 01:52:48,729they're real and that I wouldn't worry

244401:52:46,779 --> 01:52:50,529since there's no kind of physical threat

244501:52:48,729 --> 01:52:52,359since there's a miniature I wouldn't

244601:52:50,529 --> 01:52:53,889worry if they're what they are as long

244701:52:52,359 --> 01:52:55,659as they're not big enough to hurt us but

244801:52:53,890 --> 01:52:56,770you see them they're just doing that

244901:52:55,659 --> 01:53:00,189thing and then they're gone

245001:52:56,770 --> 01:53:02,460but I don't as far as what their origin

245101:53:00,189 --> 01:53:06,309is the spiritual of some kind and


245201:53:02,460 --> 01:53:08,050miniature but them they're definitely

245301:53:06,310 --> 01:53:11,110real and it's pretty interesting they're

245401:53:08,050 --> 01:53:13,150so fast Oh a camera if you had like

245501:53:11,109 --> 01:53:15,609there is a room but they always happen

245601:53:13,149 --> 01:53:18,219alway but they just seem to happen

245701:53:15,609 --> 01:53:20,619randomly even maybe outside you know and

245801:53:18,219 --> 01:53:22,210it's no trick of the eyes because I've

245901:53:20,619 --> 01:53:25,269had my eye stick like three times this

246001:53:22,210 --> 01:53:27,399year and it's not a trick of the eye the

246101:53:25,270 --> 01:53:29,800person actually sees something and what

246201:53:27,399 --> 01:53:32,409it is so it's hard to figure out they're

246301:53:29,800 --> 01:53:36,880so quick they're gone but they're I

246401:53:32,409 --> 01:53:38,500literally thought they one of them it

246501:53:36,880 --> 01:53:41,109wasn't a shadow being but I was laying


246601:53:38,500 --> 01:53:45,670on my stomach one day and

246701:53:41,109 --> 01:53:48,250I saw these little beings they were blue

246801:53:45,670 --> 01:53:49,929kind of like those Smurf beings and they

246901:53:48,250 --> 01:53:53,529were mark except in humans they were

247001:53:49,929 --> 01:53:54,760marching across my stomach and I was

247101:53:53,529 --> 01:53:56,500like what the hell there are three of

247201:53:54,760 --> 01:53:59,469them and they march right across my

247301:53:56,500 --> 01:54:02,139stomach and I let it happen and then it

247401:53:59,469 --> 01:54:03,819just kind of dissolved out of you I

247501:54:02,139 --> 01:54:05,350didn't movie that I look from the corner

247601:54:03,819 --> 01:54:08,469of the mines they just kind of dissolved

247701:54:05,350 --> 01:54:10,989out of Urd materialized but there's a

247801:54:08,469 --> 01:54:13,060lot of weird interesting things that

247901:54:10,988 --> 01:54:14,979happened and when they happen just let

2480


01:54:13,060 --> 01:54:17,080them have it try not to react to them

248101:54:14,979 --> 01:54:18,698try not to analyze and just let the

248201:54:17,079 --> 01:54:21,399experience happen and then analyze it

248301:54:18,698 --> 01:54:24,219later but those are some curiosities a

248401:54:21,399 --> 01:54:26,259shadow thing to they flit and move about

248501:54:24,219 --> 01:54:29,698yeah you the person is definitely seeing

248601:54:26,260 --> 01:54:33,070something let's go to out-of-body

248701:54:29,698 --> 01:54:34,719experiences here because this is one

248801:54:33,069 --> 01:54:36,340topic that just gives me the

248901:54:34,719 --> 01:54:38,260heebie-jeebies and I know you laugh

249001:54:36,340 --> 01:54:42,909every time I say that because I've told

249101:54:38,260 --> 01:54:45,579you that in private is funny well I

249201:54:42,908 --> 01:54:48,698don't know if I would because there

249301:54:45,579 --> 01:54:52,029there is something I remember I you know

249401:54:48,698 --> 01:54:52,569


sometimes I like I love amusement park

249501:54:52,029 --> 01:54:54,429rides

249601:54:52,569 --> 01:54:56,439there isn't a roller coaster in this

249701:54:54,429 --> 01:55:00,489world I will not ride on I'm a roller

249801:54:56,439 --> 01:55:02,169coaster fanatic yeah but I remember I

249901:55:00,488 --> 01:55:05,439used to have dreams of being on

250001:55:02,170 --> 01:55:09,310amusement park rides where they just

250101:55:05,439 --> 01:55:11,469wouldn't shut off and you get that that

250201:55:09,310 --> 01:55:14,199weird sensation in your stomach that

250301:55:11,469 --> 01:55:15,579just doesn't feel right when it's moving

250401:55:14,198 --> 01:55:17,289up and down and not that you're gonna

250501:55:15,579 --> 01:55:20,889vomit or anything like that

250601:55:17,289 --> 01:55:26,380but I look at that in the same way I

250701:55:20,889 --> 01:55:28,420look at ob YZ and I just couldn't fathom

250801:55:26,380 --> 01:55:32,380the fact that I am floating out of my


250901:55:28,420 --> 01:55:35,289body out of control being held on by an

251001:55:32,380 --> 01:55:37,779elastic band that is getting thinner and

251101:55:35,289 --> 01:55:41,439thinner and thinner to the point where

251201:55:37,779 --> 01:55:44,019it's almost like fishing line and then

251301:55:41,439 --> 01:55:44,678all of a sudden having it snap right

251401:55:44,020 --> 01:55:50,190back

251501:55:44,679 --> 01:55:53,529I just don't know yet at Eugene yeah the

251601:55:50,189 --> 01:55:54,879that cord it gets thinner and thinner

251701:55:53,529 --> 01:55:56,590and thinner but it does

251801:55:54,880 --> 01:55:58,989the part of you out you go but it does

251901:55:56,590 --> 01:56:01,989it will not break what the human cannot

252001:55:58,988 --> 01:56:04,569break it it's just like a safety valve

252101:56:01,988 --> 01:56:06,939that when the person's physical biology

252201:56:04,569 --> 01:56:08,710is getting too depleted of its Astro


252301:56:06,939 --> 01:56:11,049just pulls you back in it makes sure

252401:56:08,710 --> 01:56:14,560that the person wakes up you know for

252501:56:11,050 --> 01:56:16,300breakfast so it's and you only see it if

252601:56:14,560 --> 01:56:17,230you want to see it like if you say I

252701:56:16,300 --> 01:56:20,829don't want to see it

252801:56:17,229 --> 01:56:22,869you'll it'll it'll disappear and because

252901:56:20,829 --> 01:56:24,609I was having an astral experience up

253001:56:22,869 --> 01:56:28,090near the clouds one morning and it was

253101:56:24,609 --> 01:56:30,369in real time about ten after seven and I

253201:56:28,090 --> 01:56:32,739could feel it tugging at me and it comes

253301:56:30,369 --> 01:56:36,010from behind the head or in front of the

253401:56:32,738 --> 01:56:38,319head or through the navel and it will

253501:56:36,010 --> 01:56:41,079start pulling you and I could feel it

253601:56:38,319 --> 01:56:42,639pulling me to the extent it appeared

2537


01:56:41,079 --> 01:56:44,198visibly where I could see it when I

253801:56:42,639 --> 01:56:45,639wondered what is that calling me I

253901:56:44,198 --> 01:56:46,960looked and it appeared vision I could

254001:56:45,639 --> 01:56:48,609see the cable going through the clouds

254101:56:46,960 --> 01:56:51,039through this guy back to my house my

254201:56:48,609 --> 01:56:52,539bedroom window I said what and so I

254301:56:51,039 --> 01:56:54,340started pulling back against it because

254401:56:52,539 --> 01:56:57,579I want to stay out there just look about

254501:56:54,340 --> 01:56:59,469and enjoy because uh you absorb so much

254601:56:57,579 --> 01:57:03,219when you're out of body you can feel

254701:56:59,469 --> 01:57:05,109everything it's like being on mushrooms

254801:57:03,219 --> 01:57:08,739or something you just absorb everything

254901:57:05,109 --> 01:57:10,238fully and but so it cold it started

255001:57:08,738 --> 01:57:11,709pulling so we had a tug-of-war and then

255101:57:10,238 --> 01:57:13,299


all of a sudden when the scene I wasn't

255201:57:11,710 --> 01:57:16,149going to stay in because usually the

255301:57:13,300 --> 01:57:18,429conscious mind is in control it yanked

255401:57:16,149 --> 01:57:20,500me through the air all the way back into

255501:57:18,429 --> 01:57:22,840my bed and I woke up with a headache in

255601:57:20,500 --> 01:57:25,090the back of my head from the poor but

255701:57:22,840 --> 01:57:27,429it's just it make sure that your astral

255801:57:25,090 --> 01:57:28,360comes back to your physical and so you

255901:57:27,429 --> 01:57:31,408can stay alive

256001:57:28,359 --> 01:57:33,969because it's the whole the subconscious

256101:57:31,408 --> 01:57:37,719monitors to all the respiratory systems

256201:57:33,969 --> 01:57:40,029a heart and a minute before it gives you

256301:57:37,719 --> 01:57:42,100ample time the body starts going into

256401:57:40,029 --> 01:57:45,579emergency mode it'll pull you back in

256501:57:42,100 --> 01:57:48,250and the subconscious that that's what


256601:57:45,579 --> 01:57:49,899controls that other body too and if it's

256701:57:48,250 --> 01:57:51,520anything any kind of danger to the

256801:57:49,899 --> 01:57:53,829physical product you'll be yanked back

256901:57:51,520 --> 01:57:55,840in that adventure with Marilyn Monroe or

257001:57:53,829 --> 01:57:58,149you know playing dunking the basketball

257101:57:55,840 --> 01:58:00,369will end and the person could wake up in

257201:57:58,149 --> 01:58:03,460the bed so that's like a safety thing

257301:58:00,369 --> 01:58:05,469but I think maybe with you and you said

257401:58:03,460 --> 01:58:07,029about the lack of control there is a

257501:58:05,469 --> 01:58:08,619lack of control where the person just

257601:58:07,029 --> 01:58:10,569has to submit

257701:58:08,619 --> 01:58:12,670this like a subconscious force that

257801:58:10,569 --> 01:58:14,829takes over especially when the person is

257901:58:12,670 --> 01:58:16,989coming out of the body and if you just


258001:58:14,829 --> 01:58:21,970lay there your body will rise on its own

258101:58:16,989 --> 01:58:24,340and and and go up halfway up ago about

258201:58:21,970 --> 01:58:26,440maybe chin level if you're a normal

258301:58:24,340 --> 01:58:29,020height guy then it'll go to the front of

258401:58:26,439 --> 01:58:31,659the bed rotate down I'll send you some

258501:58:29,020 --> 01:58:34,000pictures of it tonight and expand then

258601:58:31,659 --> 01:58:36,460you kind of regain consciousness or at

258701:58:34,000 --> 01:58:38,560least the finalization ends when you're

258801:58:36,460 --> 01:58:41,939stood upright from the horizontal

258901:58:38,560 --> 01:58:44,650position but it's interesting watching

259001:58:41,939 --> 01:58:46,629the body come out and feeling it because

259101:58:44,649 --> 01:58:48,579there's like you may have read there's

259201:58:46,630 --> 01:58:50,369all kinds of mechanical kids sometimes

259301:58:48,579 --> 01:58:54,819you'll feel like what sounds like

2594


01:58:50,369 --> 01:58:57,460construction noises and machinery and

259501:58:54,819 --> 01:58:59,349it's interesting the sounds but what the

259601:58:57,460 --> 01:59:01,720person really is doing is just their

259701:58:59,350 --> 01:59:04,780inner spirit their inner self the higher

259801:59:01,720 --> 01:59:06,520self is just waking up and their

259901:59:04,779 --> 01:59:08,920physical self is down there on the bed

260001:59:06,520 --> 01:59:11,950but their essence their real self is

260101:59:08,920 --> 01:59:15,010that out-of-body self and that's a good

260201:59:11,949 --> 01:59:17,019one for you to meet because it energizes

260301:59:15,010 --> 01:59:18,789just waking up in that national state

260401:59:17,020 --> 01:59:20,590will energize the physical to the point

260501:59:18,789 --> 01:59:22,359where people will notice that you're

260601:59:20,590 --> 01:59:24,369different or look different or you have

260701:59:22,359 --> 01:59:25,899a shine or you're taller they'll notice

260801:59:24,369 --> 01:59:28,029


it right away just from having one

260901:59:25,899 --> 01:59:29,589out-of-body so there's some good effects

261001:59:28,029 --> 01:59:33,579from having the other body and it's just

261101:59:29,590 --> 01:59:35,710I get a fear thing and because I know in

261201:59:33,579 --> 01:59:38,470this world you're probably afraid of few

261301:59:35,710 --> 01:59:40,210things you know you click hockey I can

261401:59:38,470 --> 01:59:41,770tell that if you're talking stuff the

261501:59:40,210 --> 01:59:44,050way you you know your straight shooter

261601:59:41,770 --> 01:59:47,410and stuff so I know you're not that

261701:59:44,050 --> 01:59:51,070afraid but those inner experiences can

261801:59:47,409 --> 01:59:53,079be a test a person's courage too but I

261901:59:51,069 --> 01:59:55,569used to have a fear in the out of body

262001:59:53,079 --> 01:59:57,250of falling back when the person falls

262101:59:55,569 --> 01:59:58,899asleep and sometimes you have the

262201:59:57,250 --> 02:00:01,270sensation that you're falling down and


262301:59:58,899 --> 02:00:02,710when you're really rising up but the

262402:00:01,270 --> 02:00:04,540physical body feels like you're going

262502:00:02,710 --> 02:00:06,189down into the pit that's just because

262602:00:04,539 --> 02:00:09,369your spirit thought is coming up out of

262702:00:06,189 --> 02:00:12,159you but I said that fear of falling and

262802:00:09,369 --> 02:00:14,289letting go but that's why the paralysis

262902:00:12,159 --> 02:00:16,989because it's so freaky and so

263002:00:14,289 --> 02:00:19,569psychologically freaky because no one

263102:00:16,989 --> 02:00:21,460how can you be invisibly paralyzed and

263202:00:19,569 --> 02:00:22,269you can't move yourself but you can

263302:00:21,460 --> 02:00:25,329think

263402:00:22,270 --> 02:00:27,130and I see so that's that man alone would

263502:00:25,329 --> 02:00:28,930start off the alarm centers but it's

263602:00:27,130 --> 02:00:30,340just your higher-self taking over


263702:00:28,930 --> 02:00:31,869because they know the person's going to

263802:00:30,340 --> 02:00:35,199move about if they see themselves

263902:00:31,869 --> 02:00:37,300separating into two people which are

264002:00:35,199 --> 02:00:39,729really one but that's just the invisible

264102:00:37,300 --> 02:00:41,829a higher self waking up and that

264202:00:39,729 --> 02:00:44,079out-of-body can stimulate more

264302:00:41,829 --> 02:00:45,430activation of those two minds the

264402:00:44,079 --> 02:00:48,460subconscious and conscious mind

264502:00:45,430 --> 02:00:50,110interacting and yeah it's a good thing

264602:00:48,460 --> 02:00:51,760to have because a lot of other

264702:00:50,109 --> 02:00:55,329experiences come out and more other

264802:00:51,760 --> 02:00:57,610bodies come out one - it's a good thing

264902:00:55,329 --> 02:00:59,890to have them you should say to yourself

265002:00:57,609 --> 02:01:01,089I want to have one it's good to face

2651


02:00:59,890 --> 02:01:02,740some fears because it's really nothing

265202:01:01,090 --> 02:01:04,270to be afraid of like if you just lay

265302:01:02,739 --> 02:01:06,729there and do your breathing's it'll

265402:01:04,270 --> 02:01:12,310happen on its own I could talk you

265502:01:06,729 --> 02:01:15,299through one importance all right let's

265602:01:12,310 --> 02:01:18,220try that out okay

265702:01:15,300 --> 02:01:20,739we're gonna hop out here for a break

265802:01:18,220 --> 02:01:23,050here at the top of the hour we have one

265902:01:20,739 --> 02:01:27,359hour left in spaced out radio our guest

266002:01:23,050 --> 02:01:30,010tonight Eugene Braxton America's most mm

266102:01:27,359 --> 02:01:31,149experienced mystic for some reason I

266202:01:30,010 --> 02:01:34,110always want to get those two words

266302:01:31,149 --> 02:01:36,609intermixed but America's most

266402:01:34,109 --> 02:01:38,109experienced mystic Eugene Braxton our

266502:01:36,609 --> 02:01:40,269


guest he'll be with us for the final

266602:01:38,109 --> 02:01:41,769hours well on spaced-out radio you're

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280002:06:59,270 --> 02:07:03,440tonight we are talking with eugene

280102:07:01,279 --> 02:07:05,869braixen we've talked a lot about ETS

280202:07:03,439 --> 02:07:08,210disclosure we've been talking about some

280302:07:05,869 --> 02:07:11,119out-of-body experiences I got a question

280402:07:08,210 --> 02:07:12,890from Bill Cardwell in the Esso our space

280502:07:11,119 --> 02:07:16,010travelers on Facebook to kick off this

280602:07:12,890 --> 02:07:20,690half hour for you Eugene and the

280702:07:16,010 --> 02:07:22,369question is if someone wants to have an


280802:07:20,689 --> 02:07:24,739out-of-body experience but has been

280902:07:22,369 --> 02:07:30,500unable to do it what steps can they take

281002:07:24,739 --> 02:07:33,710to help it happen a lot depends on what

281102:07:30,500 --> 02:07:37,189they're doing but the best that's to

281202:07:33,710 --> 02:07:43,880have an out-of-body is to have a regular

281302:07:37,189 --> 02:07:47,029bed time to do regular meditational

281402:07:43,880 --> 02:07:51,109breathing's every night and every day if

281502:07:47,029 --> 02:07:56,029you can but especially every night be in

281602:07:51,109 --> 02:07:57,859good health be in a good mood wait

281702:07:56,029 --> 02:08:03,949especially when you go to sleep and try

281802:07:57,859 --> 02:08:08,059to be normally the breathing's will what

281902:08:03,949 --> 02:08:11,149you want to do is extend your continuity

282002:08:08,060 --> 02:08:14,510of consciousness you want to to fall

282102:08:11,149 --> 02:08:15,170asleep basically well mentally staying

2822


02:08:14,510 --> 02:08:16,909awake

282302:08:15,170 --> 02:08:19,640and the breathing's will help you do

282402:08:16,909 --> 02:08:23,300that because you literally want to count

282502:08:19,640 --> 02:08:25,880them as you can usually they say a good

282602:08:23,300 --> 02:08:29,029number is to do 18 usually the person is

282702:08:25,880 --> 02:08:31,640asleep before they get to 18 as their

282802:08:29,029 --> 02:08:33,710body starts filling up with air and they

282902:08:31,640 --> 02:08:38,510it knocks them out easier but if you

283002:08:33,710 --> 02:08:40,670count and do your breathing's you do

283102:08:38,510 --> 02:08:42,500have regular you'll be able to go deeper

283202:08:40,670 --> 02:08:46,960into the sleep state while staying awake

283302:08:42,500 --> 02:08:50,000and you'll start to hear things first

283402:08:46,960 --> 02:08:55,730then you'll start to see things in your

283502:08:50,000 --> 02:08:59,359mind and also uh during the out-of-body

283602:08:55,729 --> 02:09:01,189


but you want to extend that range of

283702:08:59,359 --> 02:09:03,559consciousness with the breathing

283802:09:01,189 --> 02:09:05,629exercises even if you have to count up

283902:09:03,560 --> 02:09:09,350to a hundred while doing the exercises

284002:09:05,630 --> 02:09:10,909like I used to do and you'll do that for

284102:09:09,350 --> 02:09:13,76030 days and then suddenly there'll be a

284202:09:10,909 --> 02:09:16,429change some of the symptoms that you're

284302:09:13,760 --> 02:09:18,800on the way to having an out-of-body is

284402:09:16,429 --> 02:09:20,600when you can feel the paralysis creeping

284502:09:18,800 --> 02:09:23,630up your legs if you usually start at

284602:09:20,600 --> 02:09:25,280your toes calves or thighs and you'll

284702:09:23,630 --> 02:09:26,600feel it slowly while you're steadily

284802:09:25,279 --> 02:09:28,009doing your breathing's you want to

284902:09:26,600 --> 02:09:29,500concentrate on the breathing's and

285002:09:28,010 --> 02:09:31,969everything else will happen naturally


285102:09:29,500 --> 02:09:35,659you'll feel that paralysis that means

285202:09:31,969 --> 02:09:37,250that that oncoming body or out of body

285302:09:35,659 --> 02:09:39,469is going to happen

285402:09:37,250 --> 02:09:41,149so you'll steadily do your breathing's

285502:09:39,469 --> 02:09:42,890which will calm you out the breathing's

285602:09:41,149 --> 02:09:44,719will keep you nice and calm and relaxed

285702:09:42,890 --> 02:09:45,920that's why they tell a person to do

285802:09:44,719 --> 02:09:49,819their breathing's if there's an argument

285902:09:45,920 --> 02:09:51,440or fight because it does cool you are so

286002:09:49,819 --> 02:09:56,420those readings will keep you calm you'll

286102:09:51,439 --> 02:09:58,339feel the paralysis when separation

286202:09:56,420 --> 02:10:02,960occurs you'll be fully paralyzed and you

286302:09:58,340 --> 02:10:05,210have to be fully calm because you will

286402:10:02,960 --> 02:10:07,250and the breathing's will help you stay


286502:10:05,210 --> 02:10:08,510awake you'll literally have to breathe

286602:10:07,250 --> 02:10:10,130through your stomach at this point

286702:10:08,510 --> 02:10:13,250because your chest will be too paralyzed

286802:10:10,130 --> 02:10:15,469do and the more the person freaks out

286902:10:13,250 --> 02:10:18,948the tighter the paralysis will be and

287002:10:15,469 --> 02:10:20,600when the paralysis becomes too tight the

287102:10:18,948 --> 02:10:22,039person will be just knocked out into

287202:10:20,600 --> 02:10:24,500unconsciousness and they'll miss at the

287302:10:22,039 --> 02:10:27,019out-of-body but you can do it later on

287402:10:24,500 --> 02:10:28,310in the middle of the night say suppose

287502:10:27,020 --> 02:10:28,769you have to wake up to go to bath and

287602:10:28,310 --> 02:10:31,169we're going to

287702:10:28,769 --> 02:10:33,479the water that's a primetime after

287802:10:31,168 --> 02:10:36,088resting a little bit to have the

2879


02:10:33,479 --> 02:10:38,510out-of-body when you have the other body

288002:10:36,088 --> 02:10:41,818you want to be tired but not dead tired

288102:10:38,510 --> 02:10:44,609a good time to have try a lot of bodies

288202:10:41,819 --> 02:10:46,379and afternoon that when you wake up in

288302:10:44,609 --> 02:10:47,819the morning it's a weekend you don't

288402:10:46,378 --> 02:10:49,708have to get up and you go back to sleep

288502:10:47,819 --> 02:10:53,548because you don't want to be overly

288602:10:49,708 --> 02:10:55,019tired but you want to be in a relaxed

288702:10:53,548 --> 02:10:56,908mood like the kind of move where you're

288802:10:55,019 --> 02:11:00,048riding on a bus you know and you're

288902:10:56,908 --> 02:11:03,388going to Atlantic City or to the shirt

289002:11:00,048 --> 02:11:05,158but the breathing's exercises will carry

289102:11:03,389 --> 02:11:07,019you into the other body I'll keep you

289202:11:05,158 --> 02:11:09,538calm and they'll help you stay conscious

289302:11:07,019 --> 02:11:12,239


to extend your range of consciousness

289402:11:09,538 --> 02:11:13,498until the paralyzation sets in and if

289502:11:12,238 --> 02:11:16,198you just keep doing the breathing's

289602:11:13,498 --> 02:11:17,548during the parallelization the rest will

289702:11:16,198 --> 02:11:20,188take care of yourself and the body will

289802:11:17,548 --> 02:11:21,958slowly start to lift itself out but you

289902:11:20,189 --> 02:11:27,329can't freak out because though there are

290002:11:21,958 --> 02:11:30,028sounds that may sound weird to have in a

290102:11:27,328 --> 02:11:35,548bedroom that you'll hear and you may

290202:11:30,029 --> 02:11:38,189even see a specters flitting about the

290302:11:35,548 --> 02:11:39,859room or rising around the bed you have

290402:11:38,189 --> 02:11:43,529to ignore that there kind of a

290502:11:39,859 --> 02:11:45,899hypnagogic illusions a person may think

290602:11:43,529 --> 02:11:48,419that they're seeing parts of the

290702:11:45,899 --> 02:11:52,559spiritual world but they're really not


290802:11:48,418 --> 02:11:55,979that's just mental illusions caused at

290902:11:52,559 --> 02:11:59,279separation and once you get out of the

291002:11:55,979 --> 02:12:00,809body your regular sight and an actual

291102:11:59,279 --> 02:12:02,999consciousness will kick in and those

291202:12:00,809 --> 02:12:07,109things that you're thoughtful there will

291302:12:02,998 --> 02:12:08,908disappear but there are other specters

291402:12:07,109 --> 02:12:10,619and things in the astral world that's

291502:12:08,908 --> 02:12:12,328where that grounding with God can help

291602:12:10,618 --> 02:12:14,639anchor you because they really then

291702:12:12,328 --> 02:12:16,438can't even come around you when they see

291802:12:14,639 --> 02:12:19,019you believe in God took a kind of like a

291902:12:16,439 --> 02:12:20,399beacon of light and a kind of radiation

292002:12:19,019 --> 02:12:22,048or light where they can't take and

292102:12:20,399 --> 02:12:23,039they're not going to deal with so that's


292202:12:22,048 --> 02:12:25,109why it's good to have that belief

292302:12:23,038 --> 02:12:28,528because those things can't even get

292402:12:25,109 --> 02:12:32,639around you it was like a vampire to a

292502:12:28,529 --> 02:12:36,299cross so uh that's about it for the

292602:12:32,639 --> 02:12:38,689out-of-body and a lot depends on what is

292702:12:36,298 --> 02:12:41,458doing but if he follows those steps

292802:12:38,689 --> 02:12:42,659it'll happen and if anyone wants to

292902:12:41,458 --> 02:12:44,550contact me too

293002:12:42,658 --> 02:12:47,728on how to do it privately they can turn

293102:12:44,550 --> 02:12:50,969my website or to my facebook message

293202:12:47,729 --> 02:12:53,489thing or email me bill is saying he has

293302:12:50,969 --> 02:12:56,130felt the paralysis and a feeling of

293402:12:53,488 --> 02:12:59,368vibration happening but he snaps out of

293502:12:56,130 --> 02:13:01,019it from there this city yeah the

2936


02:12:59,368 --> 02:13:04,529breathing's the Breeden's will keep him

293702:13:01,019 --> 02:13:07,409awake yes to do when you do it natural

293802:13:04,529 --> 02:13:10,529breathing's you're dimly aware but to

293902:13:07,408 --> 02:13:11,638take in as much air slowly as you can

294002:13:10,529 --> 02:13:13,859through your stomach while it's

294102:13:11,639 --> 02:13:16,559happening will make you much more aware

294202:13:13,859 --> 02:13:18,058you'll be literally it's the air during

294302:13:16,559 --> 02:13:18,659those times that makes you fully

294402:13:18,059 --> 02:13:21,119conscious

294502:13:18,658 --> 02:13:22,618you can suppose you're having a dream

294602:13:21,118 --> 02:13:24,509and you feel yourself starting to get to

294702:13:22,618 --> 02:13:26,518pull back from the dream you can

294802:13:24,510 --> 02:13:29,400literally stay in the dream by doing one

294902:13:26,519 --> 02:13:31,498slow deep breathing or two you can

295002:13:29,399 --> 02:13:32,368


submit more if I look at your hands I'm

295102:13:31,498 --> 02:13:35,569looking at your feet

295202:13:32,368 --> 02:13:37,368and that'll keep you in that dream

295302:13:35,569 --> 02:13:39,299out-of-body it be different because

295402:13:37,368 --> 02:13:40,978automatically pulls you in if your

295502:13:39,300 --> 02:13:44,429body's health is in danger but in the

295602:13:40,979 --> 02:13:48,539dream state you can cement yourself in

295702:13:44,429 --> 02:13:50,519there but the breathing's will get them

295802:13:48,538 --> 02:13:51,599through it let the paralysis happen I

295902:13:50,519 --> 02:13:53,639used to always fight against the

296002:13:51,599 --> 02:13:56,189paralysis let it happen because you know

296102:13:53,639 --> 02:13:58,139that's honest once you get paralyzed to

296202:13:56,189 --> 02:14:00,510about your chest then you're about ready

296302:13:58,139 --> 02:14:02,069to come out so let it happen but

296402:14:00,510 --> 02:14:03,300continue those breathing's no matter


296502:14:02,069 --> 02:14:09,478what because that's what will keep you

296602:14:03,300 --> 02:14:11,458awake awake the breathing's eric has a

296702:14:09,479 --> 02:14:13,800question in paranormal forum tonight

296802:14:11,458 --> 02:14:16,229Eugene have you ever heard of the

296902:14:13,800 --> 02:14:19,079mineral known as Herkimer diamond it

297002:14:16,229 --> 02:14:23,249says - it said to enhance out-of-body

297102:14:19,078 --> 02:14:25,408experiences I've never heard of that but

297202:14:23,248 --> 02:14:30,059there are some regular cooking herbs

297302:14:25,408 --> 02:14:32,938like nutmeg and I think in this that do

297402:14:30,059 --> 02:14:35,519help promote the astral body and I do

297502:14:32,939 --> 02:14:40,260definitely will look that up as long as

297602:14:35,519 --> 02:14:43,619it's it was this an herb that he all

297702:14:40,260 --> 02:14:47,010this is herkimer diamond' I'm gonna look

297802:14:43,618 --> 02:14:48,708at that here yeah yeah yeah the more


297902:14:47,010 --> 02:14:51,748natural the better better but uh

298002:14:48,708 --> 02:14:53,398anything that helps promote another body

298102:14:51,748 --> 02:14:56,439is good but you have to do those other

298202:14:53,399 --> 02:14:59,260steps before so you can be conditioned

298302:14:56,439 --> 02:15:01,359for anything that may pop up that you

298402:14:59,260 --> 02:15:04,119might not be used to right and

298502:15:01,359 --> 02:15:07,089definitely the breathing's and gotta get

298602:15:04,119 --> 02:15:09,640used to the paralysis but there are some

298702:15:07,090 --> 02:15:11,409people who might be sticky to have

298802:15:09,640 --> 02:15:12,570another but you can crystals are good

298902:15:11,409 --> 02:15:16,710real good

299002:15:12,569 --> 02:15:19,119copper's good silver is the best

299102:15:16,710 --> 02:15:20,948crystals and silver you'll get out with

299202:15:19,119 --> 02:15:22,510that and that's what good for dream like

2993


02:15:20,948 --> 02:15:25,599if you can't remember things dream

299402:15:22,510 --> 02:15:28,329recall put on some crystal a silver ring

299502:15:25,600 --> 02:15:30,160a five-dollar silver ring silver

299602:15:28,329 --> 02:15:32,519bracelet I have this bracelet that has

299702:15:30,159 --> 02:15:37,590all these quartz crystals working up and

299802:15:32,520 --> 02:15:39,670attached to it and those things help but

299902:15:37,590 --> 02:15:41,440yeah I will check that in the more

300002:15:39,670 --> 02:15:43,510natural the better but there's some

300102:15:41,439 --> 02:15:48,669cooking herbs that to help promote that

300202:15:43,510 --> 02:15:53,500- absolutely absolutely a Herkimer

300302:15:48,670 --> 02:15:55,329diamond is it's not actually a diamond

300402:15:53,500 --> 02:15:57,760but our double terminated quartz

300502:15:55,329 --> 02:15:59,559crystals of exceptional clarity water

300602:15:57,760 --> 02:16:01,930clear discovered with the exposed

300702:15:59,560 --> 02:16:04,060


outcrops of dolostone in and around

300802:16:01,930 --> 02:16:08,159Herkimer County New York and the Mohawk

300902:16:04,060 --> 02:16:13,800River Valley so that's what they are

301002:16:08,159 --> 02:16:18,309crystals are good real good to use yep

301102:16:13,800 --> 02:16:20,230how does one stay in control once they

301202:16:18,310 --> 02:16:24,210have left their body in an out-of-body

301302:16:20,229 --> 02:16:27,968experience usually expensive thought

301402:16:24,210 --> 02:16:32,228like if you want to fly you can fly you

301502:16:27,969 --> 02:16:34,030do have a conscious thought and you have

301602:16:32,228 --> 02:16:36,609a conscious will like you can decide to

301702:16:34,030 --> 02:16:38,229go somewhere you're not controlled I

301802:16:36,610 --> 02:16:40,059think some people think that the

301902:16:38,228 --> 02:16:41,679willpower that they have in an

302002:16:40,058 --> 02:16:46,949out-of-body is the same that they'll

302102:16:41,679 --> 02:16:50,739have after death or in in spiritual


302202:16:46,950 --> 02:16:52,780realms but it's it's different on the

302302:16:50,739 --> 02:16:55,629out-of-body or you are kind of free and

302402:16:52,780 --> 02:16:58,030it's almost up to your imagination to

302502:16:55,629 --> 02:16:59,978decide what to interact with since the

302602:16:58,030 --> 02:17:01,090out-of-body is connected with dreams and

302702:16:59,978 --> 02:17:06,209you can have a dream through an

302802:17:01,090 --> 02:17:09,219out-of-body you can also access or just

302902:17:06,209 --> 02:17:10,239go into a dream world either one of your

303002:17:09,218 --> 02:17:12,518own creation

303102:17:10,239 --> 02:17:14,468well one that your mind just happened

303202:17:12,519 --> 02:17:17,079like suppose you're an athlete and

303302:17:14,468 --> 02:17:19,329they've heard these cranes athletes to

303402:17:17,079 --> 02:17:21,250have dreams where in the dream that

303502:17:19,329 --> 02:17:24,069dunking the basketball or making the


303602:17:21,250 --> 02:17:26,379field goal or getting the hospital you

303702:17:24,069 --> 02:17:30,039know the goal in the hockey net so they

303802:17:26,379 --> 02:17:32,348practice in these dream realms however

303902:17:30,040 --> 02:17:33,490had they realized and it might have

304002:17:32,349 --> 02:17:36,549happen accidentally that they were

304102:17:33,489 --> 02:17:40,899literally having a dream they would have

304202:17:36,549 --> 02:17:42,968woken up in real life invisible but

304302:17:40,899 --> 02:17:45,909awake either at the basketball court or

304402:17:42,968 --> 02:17:47,829in an empty court that they you know

304502:17:45,909 --> 02:17:49,360it's it's interest everyone should

304602:17:47,829 --> 02:17:53,468definitely got to try and have an

304702:17:49,360 --> 02:17:56,620out-of-body because I said it before day

304802:17:53,468 --> 02:17:58,268when the person's level of consciousness

304902:17:56,620 --> 02:18:01,240changes or the level of conscious

3050


02:17:58,269 --> 02:18:03,370awareness changes physiology of the

305102:18:01,239 --> 02:18:05,349spirit body also changes but also

305202:18:03,370 --> 02:18:07,090whenever there's a change in the level

305302:18:05,349 --> 02:18:12,250of consciousness fluoride changing the

305402:18:07,090 --> 02:18:16,929physiology the spirit body the dimension

305502:18:12,250 --> 02:18:19,620the time and space the time with the

305602:18:16,929 --> 02:18:22,210dimension or location of where they are

305702:18:19,620 --> 02:18:23,979changes so the time and space changes

305802:18:22,209 --> 02:18:26,500according to the level of consciousness

305902:18:23,978 --> 02:18:28,840and according to the changes in the

306002:18:26,500 --> 02:18:31,058physiology of the spirit body all right

306102:18:28,840 --> 02:18:32,829that's why in a dream or an out-of-body

306202:18:31,058 --> 02:18:35,018you make been talking to someone and

306302:18:32,829 --> 02:18:36,728then after a statement or two from

306402:18:35,019 --> 02:18:41,170


either one of you via one of you may

306502:18:36,728 --> 02:18:44,829disappear in mid-sentence that's usually

306602:18:41,170 --> 02:18:47,228because the person has either realized

306702:18:44,829 --> 02:18:50,110another realm decided to go to another

306802:18:47,228 --> 02:18:52,239realm but usually it's an elevation of

306902:18:50,110 --> 02:18:54,250consciousness it could be a D elevation

307002:18:52,239 --> 02:18:56,440but it's usually a when their level of

307102:18:54,250 --> 02:19:00,190consciousness awakens then they're out

307202:18:56,440 --> 02:19:01,510of that dimension and into a new one so

307302:19:00,190 --> 02:19:04,450whenever it's a change in the level

307402:19:01,510 --> 02:19:06,760conscious awareness there's also a equal

307502:19:04,450 --> 02:19:08,800and corresponding changed physiology of

307602:19:06,760 --> 02:19:11,500the spirit body the invisible spirit

307702:19:08,799 --> 02:19:15,579rider will change in density and also

307802:19:11,500 --> 02:19:19,929the time and space the location and the


307902:19:15,579 --> 02:19:21,340time of the location and dimension of

308002:19:19,929 --> 02:19:23,440where the person will be able to change

308102:19:21,340 --> 02:19:24,079according to the change of consciousness

308202:19:23,440 --> 02:19:26,690and

308302:19:24,079 --> 02:19:28,218physiology and youth those are things

308402:19:26,690 --> 02:19:31,069that you'll naturally experience during

308502:19:28,218 --> 02:19:36,199an out-of-body and even during a dream

308602:19:31,069 --> 02:19:40,849but uh bodily and psychological changes

308702:19:36,200 --> 02:19:42,440that occur when and they take that

308802:19:40,849 --> 02:19:47,120whenever those two things occurs the

308902:19:42,440 --> 02:19:49,190person changes location and and the time

309002:19:47,120 --> 02:19:51,380is distance but you you always go to a

309102:19:49,190 --> 02:19:54,470new location whatever your level of

309202:19:51,379 --> 02:19:55,670consciousness changes so some of the


309302:19:54,469 --> 02:19:58,939things that we found in the near-death

309402:19:55,670 --> 02:20:01,129book and those are important because you

309502:19:58,940 --> 02:20:04,190can look at the spirit body and tell

309602:20:01,129 --> 02:20:07,250according to its changes what's

309702:20:04,190 --> 02:20:10,460happening yeah it's it's good what a

309802:20:07,250 --> 02:20:13,489good research we've done with that ahead

309902:20:10,459 --> 02:20:15,649of body spirit body form bill has

310002:20:13,489 --> 02:20:17,060another question for you he has heard

310102:20:15,649 --> 02:20:19,729that you can travel great distances

310202:20:17,060 --> 02:20:22,159while out-of-body is there a maximum

310302:20:19,729 --> 02:20:26,659distance from your body you can safely

310402:20:22,159 --> 02:20:28,340travel can you leave the earth well the

310502:20:26,659 --> 02:20:32,271maximum distance from that you can

310602:20:28,340 --> 02:20:34,399travel from your bodies 200 feet and now

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02:20:32,271 --> 02:20:39,739I'm just kidding there's no distance

310802:20:34,399 --> 02:20:42,229that you cannot go in behalf in the

310902:20:39,739 --> 02:20:43,850astral body or does your spirit form you

311002:20:42,229 --> 02:20:46,369could there's no like time limit either

311102:20:43,850 --> 02:20:49,250you could go in time you go ahead of

311202:20:46,370 --> 02:20:52,370time the only limit is the person's

311302:20:49,250 --> 02:20:55,370conscious awareness and the first thing

311402:20:52,370 --> 02:20:57,320that we have to do is elevate our

311502:20:55,370 --> 02:21:01,220conscious awareness that it's easily

311602:20:57,319 --> 02:21:06,079done and so then the only limit enters

311702:21:01,219 --> 02:21:09,579your imagination or your fear factor

311802:21:06,079 --> 02:21:12,289where you are afraid to go but

311902:21:09,579 --> 02:21:14,271anything's open especially when you are

312002:21:12,290 --> 02:21:17,090in connection with that higher you're

312102:21:14,271 --> 02:21:18,680


higher so that has it's not the boss the

312202:21:17,090 --> 02:21:21,021conscious self is but the higher self

312302:21:18,680 --> 02:21:23,810has access to anything any information

312402:21:21,021 --> 02:21:25,390and that's not even the level you know

312502:21:23,810 --> 02:21:28,760the super conscious level where God is

312602:21:25,389 --> 02:21:30,529so you definitely want to connect with

312702:21:28,760 --> 02:21:32,239both of that subconscious and that super

312802:21:30,530 --> 02:21:35,750conscious level so those are two powers

312902:21:32,239 --> 02:21:36,889that can easily help you for free so you

313002:21:35,750 --> 02:21:38,059want to get to know in the out-of-body

313102:21:36,889 --> 02:21:41,358you're right

313202:21:38,059 --> 02:21:45,139you are the subconsciousness the spirit

313302:21:41,359 --> 02:21:46,670the spirits mind and you definitely got

313402:21:45,139 --> 02:21:49,158to get in contact with that higher side

313502:21:46,670 --> 02:21:51,828of yourself because he will help you but


313602:21:49,158 --> 02:21:53,059she will help you so uh just like it

313702:21:51,828 --> 02:21:56,000says in the Bible when the two of you

313802:21:53,059 --> 02:21:58,219meet and agree on having anything and

313902:21:56,000 --> 02:22:01,279will be given to them by the Father the

314002:21:58,219 --> 02:22:04,549superconscious who is in heaven enter

314102:22:01,279 --> 02:22:05,988you know who is in heaven but though

314202:22:04,549 --> 02:22:07,849when you and the conscious and

314302:22:05,988 --> 02:22:10,010subconscious mind agreed to do something

314402:22:07,850 --> 02:22:12,050whether it be an out-of-body you know to

314502:22:10,010 --> 02:22:14,090get the radio station syndicated

314602:22:12,049 --> 02:22:15,679wouldn't you agree with yourself and

314702:22:14,090 --> 02:22:18,828your inner self that you're going to do

314802:22:15,680 --> 02:22:21,680something heaven and earth will move to

314902:22:18,828 --> 02:22:23,988get you that thing and it's an


315002:22:21,680 --> 02:22:27,068interesting interaction with the human

315102:22:23,988 --> 02:22:30,049consciousness and the universe because

315202:22:27,068 --> 02:22:33,318there's a way at the universe is alive

315302:22:30,049 --> 02:22:35,028and when I had the near-death the first

315402:22:33,318 --> 02:22:37,879thing I noticed was the sound and I

315502:22:35,029 --> 02:22:39,350could hear heartbeat so when I looked in

315602:22:37,879 --> 02:22:41,420lesson two fellows coming from this

315702:22:39,350 --> 02:22:45,109coming from the earth in the air itself

315802:22:41,420 --> 02:22:48,318the earth is literally a lot in like a

315902:22:45,109 --> 02:22:51,350you know vegetative and so like way and

316002:22:48,318 --> 02:22:53,359it had a heartbeat a real actual

316102:22:51,350 --> 02:22:55,430heartbeat and a heartbeat next mind Dave

316202:22:53,359 --> 02:22:57,738it was in sync with my own heartbeat so

316302:22:55,430 --> 02:22:59,840we are like that song we are the world

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02:22:57,738 --> 02:23:01,670we'd literally all the other world and

316502:22:59,840 --> 02:23:02,960that was kind of tripped up because

316602:23:01,670 --> 02:23:05,029there's a matching my heartbeat like

316702:23:02,959 --> 02:23:07,669there's one heartbeat so that's where

316802:23:05,029 --> 02:23:10,729you're able to tap into that universal

316902:23:07,670 --> 02:23:13,699thing and it all ends with God's not

317002:23:10,728 --> 02:23:16,099know if it all ends with God and so when

317102:23:13,699 --> 02:23:17,510you merge into that then things that you

317202:23:16,100 --> 02:23:19,760want to know here in this world are like

317302:23:17,510 --> 02:23:23,300easily known easily known quickly now

317402:23:19,760 --> 02:23:25,219and or revealed to you but that

317502:23:23,299 --> 02:23:28,099out-of-body to will help the person

317602:23:25,219 --> 02:23:31,368merge into that universal energy that

317702:23:28,100 --> 02:23:33,590cosmic energy that re recharging every

317802:23:31,369 --> 02:23:36,199


night anyway so it's good to learn how

317902:23:33,590 --> 02:23:39,590to get in contact with your subconscious

318002:23:36,199 --> 02:23:42,500mind and use that out-of-body to merge

318102:23:39,590 --> 02:23:44,689into the universe and and absorb the

318202:23:42,500 --> 02:23:48,739free cosmic energy from it as you come

318302:23:44,689 --> 02:23:50,510back supercharged and you those at

318402:23:48,739 --> 02:23:52,879after effects that you have from a

318502:23:50,510 --> 02:23:56,420powerful dream or out-of-body or you

318602:23:52,879 --> 02:23:57,799they are amplified year after year to

318702:23:56,420 --> 02:23:59,690get stronger and stronger and their

318802:23:57,799 --> 02:24:02,899beneficial effects even from a UFO

318902:23:59,690 --> 02:24:05,659experience so UFOs do that's one good

319002:24:02,899 --> 02:24:08,209thing that the UFO they do you know is

319102:24:05,659 --> 02:24:11,829they give off in the end powerful

319202:24:08,209 --> 02:24:14,599beneficial after-effects so um


319302:24:11,829 --> 02:24:16,789for some people it's worth it like I to

319402:24:14,600 --> 02:24:19,370get those after-effects of a UFO I'd go

319502:24:16,790 --> 02:24:21,110through another sighting a close-up

319602:24:19,370 --> 02:24:25,070encounter because the after-effects are

319702:24:21,110 --> 02:24:26,720so strong and um that's it from that

319802:24:25,069 --> 02:24:28,279near-death in your coat and from the

319902:24:26,719 --> 02:24:30,949other body but Dave I think it's

320002:24:28,280 --> 02:24:33,829definitely try the anybody well I can

320102:24:30,950 --> 02:24:34,700tell you that us oh I'm sure I have I'm

320202:24:33,829 --> 02:24:36,889sure I have

320302:24:34,700 --> 02:24:39,260as someone who doesn't remember his

320402:24:36,889 --> 02:24:40,849dreams like at me and there's a lot of

320502:24:39,260 --> 02:24:43,370people out there who do not remember

320602:24:40,850 --> 02:24:45,620their dreams are you able to fully


320702:24:43,370 --> 02:24:50,270recollect what is happening during an

320802:24:45,620 --> 02:24:53,210OBE yes yeah if you have an out-of-body

320902:24:50,270 --> 02:24:54,950it'll it will seem like a dream to you

321002:24:53,209 --> 02:24:58,519until you wake up and then you'll notice

321102:24:54,950 --> 02:25:00,440the differences but you'll remember the

321202:24:58,520 --> 02:25:01,819out-of-body which will which will mean

321302:25:00,440 --> 02:25:03,500that it was more than the green because

321402:25:01,819 --> 02:25:05,090usually our dreams fade away once we

321502:25:03,500 --> 02:25:07,129wake up and start scrambling for the

321602:25:05,090 --> 02:25:08,510business day but the out-of-body you'll

321702:25:07,129 --> 02:25:11,679remember that well and you'll remember

321802:25:08,510 --> 02:25:15,200it all your life because it's it's a

321902:25:11,680 --> 02:25:18,710it's something that just and you just

322002:25:15,200 --> 02:25:20,210absorb and it's so natural and to the

3221


02:25:18,709 --> 02:25:21,500person that feels like their real self

322202:25:20,209 --> 02:25:23,539and you feel like you're in the real

322302:25:21,500 --> 02:25:25,969world the vision is slightly different

322402:25:23,540 --> 02:25:28,190it can be crystal clear and also it can

322502:25:25,969 --> 02:25:30,039be like you're looking through a prism

322602:25:28,190 --> 02:25:32,300where there's all these silvery

322702:25:30,040 --> 02:25:34,490reflections usually that's in sunlight

322802:25:32,299 --> 02:25:37,189where you get the extra ray that you

322902:25:34,489 --> 02:25:40,159normally couldn't see but if you want to

323002:25:37,190 --> 02:25:41,360look look ten miles away you just think

323102:25:40,159 --> 02:25:42,739about where you want to see your

323202:25:41,360 --> 02:25:45,620grandmother's house and you're somehow

323302:25:42,739 --> 02:25:47,180your eyes magnify if you want to see how

323402:25:45,620 --> 02:25:49,520your kid is doing you just think about

323502:25:47,180 --> 02:25:50,210


it and lift that 360 degree vision you

323602:25:49,520 --> 02:25:52,520can see them

323702:25:50,209 --> 02:25:56,839either when they literally are or in

323802:25:52,520 --> 02:25:59,780your mind's eye but you know after a

323902:25:56,840 --> 02:26:02,748fact and experiences of works more than

324002:25:59,780 --> 02:26:04,248the fear of not having them and

324102:26:02,748 --> 02:26:06,850the person's like to see they've you

324202:26:04,248 --> 02:26:09,170work a lot here workaholic and stuff so

324302:26:06,850 --> 02:26:12,800you when you sleep you sleep and you

324402:26:09,170 --> 02:26:14,988sleep right third and maybe like this

324502:26:12,799 --> 02:26:17,929other people like it a full eight hours

324602:26:14,988 --> 02:26:19,969I don't think you do and I know I don't

324702:26:17,930 --> 02:26:22,699so sometimes we might have a tendency to

324802:26:19,969 --> 02:26:24,769sleep to us but on a one-on-one who they

324902:26:22,699 --> 02:26:26,328are that would be a good we need some


325002:26:24,770 --> 02:26:28,729extra sleep because if you're too tired

325102:26:26,328 --> 02:26:33,020to personal sleep because the physical

325202:26:28,728 --> 02:26:35,358energy comes first but a little extra

325302:26:33,020 --> 02:26:37,578sleep and an unexpected nap and you

325402:26:35,359 --> 02:26:39,140could have one if the person thinks I'm

325502:26:37,578 --> 02:26:41,420gonna have an out-of-body when I go to

325602:26:39,139 --> 02:26:43,698sleep that alone could could get them on

325702:26:41,420 --> 02:26:45,648there's a ways where you can avoid the

325802:26:43,699 --> 02:26:47,748parallelization and just jump to the

325902:26:45,648 --> 02:26:49,639other body state you just picture

326002:26:47,748 --> 02:26:52,158yourself in advance you program where

326102:26:49,639 --> 02:26:53,868you want to wake up at I think we

326202:26:52,158 --> 02:26:55,068touched on that pun the last thing and

326302:26:53,869 --> 02:26:56,539we could talk about it here but I


326402:26:55,068 --> 02:26:58,670definitely can tell you in private how

326502:26:56,539 --> 02:27:01,100to do that day but you can usually

326602:26:58,670 --> 02:27:03,260literally just visualize yourself to a

326702:27:01,100 --> 02:27:04,399certain spot and when you believe that

326802:27:03,260 --> 02:27:06,590you're dreaming that you're dead you're

326902:27:04,398 --> 02:27:08,028actually there in out-of-body form all

327002:27:06,590 --> 02:27:10,549you have to do is wake up and that's why

327102:27:08,029 --> 02:27:11,930sometimes people even put a sign there

327202:27:10,549 --> 02:27:14,148you're having an out-of-body

327302:27:11,930 --> 02:27:15,619if used to put this five-dollar bill I

327402:27:14,148 --> 02:27:17,898put it on a Xerox machine you made a

327502:27:15,619 --> 02:27:20,359copy of it and it would stand in the

327602:27:17,898 --> 02:27:22,849field of grass just all green grass and

327702:27:20,359 --> 02:27:24,800alone with that sign and I would have a

3278


02:27:22,850 --> 02:27:26,300vision that I was flying there when I

327902:27:24,799 --> 02:27:27,618got there I agreed to sign and realized

328002:27:26,299 --> 02:27:29,448I was awake because I saw the five

328102:27:27,619 --> 02:27:31,699dollars and it couldn't be done like

328202:27:29,449 --> 02:27:34,010that you can spin yourself into an

328302:27:31,699 --> 02:27:35,510out-of-body by imagining that you're

328402:27:34,010 --> 02:27:37,699spinning around and around as you're

328502:27:35,510 --> 02:27:39,529going to sleep and visualizing the place

328602:27:37,699 --> 02:27:41,810where you want to wake up you think that

328702:27:39,529 --> 02:27:43,908you're imagining it or have a sleep but

328802:27:41,809 --> 02:27:47,299actually you have just kind of walked

328902:27:43,908 --> 02:27:50,090into it but those greetings are the key

329002:27:47,299 --> 02:27:51,469to having the out-of-body because why

329102:27:50,090 --> 02:27:52,908have if you can't remember those

329202:27:51,469 --> 02:27:54,769


breathing's will help you remember it

329302:27:52,908 --> 02:27:55,969and help you stay awake longer because

329402:27:54,770 --> 02:27:57,738you're going to have it the person

329502:27:55,969 --> 02:28:00,038either falls asleep and this is it or

329602:27:57,738 --> 02:28:04,129stays awake enhances but they can be had

329702:28:00,039 --> 02:28:07,329they their work it to well you know what

329802:28:04,129 --> 02:28:09,108it's something that would absolutely

329902:28:07,328 --> 02:28:11,059still freak me out

330002:28:09,109 --> 02:28:13,430I know I've said that I know I've said

330102:28:11,059 --> 02:28:16,850that a number of times but it's one of

330202:28:13,430 --> 02:28:20,238those things where I just cannot feather

330302:28:16,850 --> 02:28:22,488going there as of yet I just can't and

330402:28:20,238 --> 02:28:25,039maybe that's just me maybe it's my own

330502:28:22,488 --> 02:28:28,698internal fear that is keeping it away

330602:28:25,040 --> 02:28:32,390from me but it just seems like being so


330702:28:28,699 --> 02:28:34,340out of control and let me ask you this

330802:28:32,389 --> 02:28:36,829then because a lot of people who suffer

330902:28:34,340 --> 02:28:41,540from depression and anxiety such as I do

331002:28:36,829 --> 02:28:45,350Eugene always fear losing control

331102:28:41,540 --> 02:28:47,119because it's uncontrollable so do you

331202:28:45,350 --> 02:28:50,180think people with depression and anxiety

331302:28:47,119 --> 02:28:54,649can have this experience in a positive

331402:28:50,180 --> 02:28:57,130light yes yes I think they can because I

331502:28:54,648 --> 02:29:00,019had a brother it was just like that I

331602:28:57,129 --> 02:29:03,349think they can those breathing's will

331702:29:00,020 --> 02:29:06,649help keep them calm and the the peaceful

331802:29:03,350 --> 02:29:15,318aspects of it and the because everything

331902:29:06,648 --> 02:29:17,948is like like that scene in how can I

332002:29:15,318 --> 02:29:17,948describe it


332102:29:20,680 --> 02:29:27,068none of the movie of reese witherspoon

332202:29:22,728 --> 02:29:29,688where they were back in the fifties yes

332302:29:27,068 --> 02:29:32,568now remember they had that drive for all

332402:29:29,689 --> 02:29:36,380the flowers the pink and at Fiat last

332502:29:32,568 --> 02:29:38,059song was playing and like a little drive

332602:29:36,379 --> 02:29:42,108her and Tobey Maguire through the park

332702:29:38,059 --> 02:29:43,670or something right well it's kind of

332802:29:42,109 --> 02:29:46,550like that it's just like it's almost

332902:29:43,670 --> 02:29:52,010it's like a super real the out-of-body

333002:29:46,549 --> 02:29:55,158so um it's so perfectly serene and

333102:29:52,010 --> 02:29:56,449natural that the person once you have

333202:29:55,158 --> 02:29:58,158when you'll definitely want to have one

333302:29:56,449 --> 02:30:00,770again and you'll be more inclined to

333402:29:58,158 --> 02:30:02,840have one again but it's really just a

3335


02:30:00,770 --> 02:30:04,520person's higher self waking up and you

333602:30:02,840 --> 02:30:08,630get to see the universe in a whole new

333702:30:04,520 --> 02:30:09,979way and you get to be part of it you you

333802:30:08,629 --> 02:30:12,889get to be the part of it that you knew

333902:30:09,978 --> 02:30:16,010that you always were you're much more in

334002:30:12,889 --> 02:30:19,219contact with the divine and you absorbed

334102:30:16,010 --> 02:30:20,988things from the universe that more when

334202:30:19,219 --> 02:30:23,719conscious that you couldn't do in sleep

334302:30:20,988 --> 02:30:25,908like when we sleep we recharge and I ask

334402:30:23,719 --> 02:30:27,889a lot but we're asleep but we can absorb

334502:30:25,908 --> 02:30:30,560so much more if we're awake in the

334602:30:27,889 --> 02:30:33,770astral state and that absorb

334702:30:30,560 --> 02:30:35,770thing is a good thing too because

334802:30:33,771 --> 02:30:38,300there's a lot of beauty out there and

334902:30:35,771 --> 02:30:42,021


the person if they have any kind of

335002:30:38,299 --> 02:30:44,209supreme the belief factor they'll be

335102:30:42,021 --> 02:30:46,400fully protected no team and nothing like

335202:30:44,209 --> 02:30:47,779that will come to them nothing will try

335302:30:46,399 --> 02:30:49,431to get them on their happy odds but

335402:30:47,780 --> 02:30:53,061they'll be completely protected

335502:30:49,431 --> 02:30:55,940probably by their their you know three

335602:30:53,060 --> 02:30:57,351main angelic protectors but if the

335702:30:55,940 --> 02:30:59,239person believes in God you can go ahead

335802:30:57,351 --> 02:31:01,579and do the other bodies with no fear

335902:30:59,239 --> 02:31:04,761nothing will come near you yeah cuz if

336002:31:01,579 --> 02:31:08,569you have God Himself watching of you but

336102:31:04,761 --> 02:31:11,659it's worth it to fly to hear the sound

336202:31:08,569 --> 02:31:13,610of colors to see your children in the

336302:31:11,659 --> 02:31:16,521future if you wanted to make sure that


336402:31:13,610 --> 02:31:19,700they're alright so worth it to expand

336502:31:16,521 --> 02:31:21,440your mind so much that it's well worth

336602:31:19,700 --> 02:31:23,210in the person that's how well that the

336702:31:21,440 --> 02:31:27,261person will go back to from and drink

336802:31:23,209 --> 02:31:29,329from again and again because uh you know

336902:31:27,261 --> 02:31:31,700things are things work for you it's like

337002:31:29,329 --> 02:31:33,560a magic switch and when you wake back up

337102:31:31,700 --> 02:31:38,800in this world things start clicking the

337202:31:33,560 --> 02:31:41,539things that it just elevates everything

337302:31:38,799 --> 02:31:43,879especially for you spiritually and

337402:31:41,540 --> 02:31:45,110physically things just it's you just in

337502:31:43,879 --> 02:31:47,000tune when you're in tune with the

337602:31:45,110 --> 02:31:49,790universe you're really in tune and you

337702:31:47,000 --> 02:31:52,879can wake up and use those things here in


337802:31:49,790 --> 02:31:56,090this world and you have the right and

337902:31:52,879 --> 02:31:57,979good intentions and a lot of times like

338002:31:56,090 --> 02:31:59,931criminals and stuff they don't get too

338102:31:57,979 --> 02:32:01,250far when they try to do things in those

338202:31:59,931 --> 02:32:02,601wings because their intentions are

338302:32:01,250 --> 02:32:04,489already known and they're going to be

338402:32:02,601 --> 02:32:06,681limited but the one who has good

338502:32:04,489 --> 02:32:09,021intentions to use those experiences and

338602:32:06,681 --> 02:32:10,550abilities for good things they'll go hi

338702:32:09,021 --> 02:32:13,280and you have this kind of intentions

338802:32:10,549 --> 02:32:14,989Dave it's easily seen these days there's

338902:32:13,280 --> 02:32:17,329like no hiding asleep you can usually

339002:32:14,989 --> 02:32:19,250not always but usually see what they are

339102:32:17,329 --> 02:32:22,521they make themselves know but the good

3392


02:32:19,250 --> 02:32:25,521intentions is you have every good reason

339302:32:22,521 --> 02:32:28,460to do it you know it's it's but the fear

339402:32:25,521 --> 02:32:30,950thing is I was afraid to applying of not

339502:32:28,459 --> 02:32:33,649of being floating in air of something

339602:32:30,950 --> 02:32:35,840gripping me but you can bypass the

339702:32:33,649 --> 02:32:38,270paralysis and just go heavy other bodies

339802:32:35,840 --> 02:32:39,681through a dream you'd have a dream that

339902:32:38,271 --> 02:32:41,271you're pushing a kid on the swing then

340002:32:39,681 --> 02:32:43,920you realize that this is the dreamy

340102:32:41,271 --> 02:32:45,659program suddenly wake up

340202:32:43,920 --> 02:32:49,710it's better to do it when you're having

340302:32:45,659 --> 02:32:51,090a dream when you're alone but you can go

340402:32:49,709 --> 02:32:53,818have an out-of-body through a dream

340502:32:51,090 --> 02:32:55,859you can literally tonight say that

340602:32:53,818 --> 02:32:57,959


picture yourself climbing a ladder and

340702:32:55,859 --> 02:33:00,329when you get to the top there'll be no

340802:32:57,959 --> 02:33:02,969way down except for you to eat a jump or

340902:33:00,329 --> 02:33:04,590fly that's the kind I had but you can

341002:33:02,969 --> 02:33:08,688literally run along the street in a

341102:33:04,590 --> 02:33:10,920dream and jump up and you will fly and

341202:33:08,689 --> 02:33:13,079once you realize that wait a second this

341302:33:10,920 --> 02:33:15,239is a dream you'll snap that level of

341402:33:13,079 --> 02:33:18,568consciousness will change your your

341502:33:15,239 --> 02:33:21,590spiritual body will change in turn it

341602:33:18,568 --> 02:33:24,379won't be a dream body it'll be a literal

341702:33:21,590 --> 02:33:27,270invisibly solid astral body your real

341802:33:24,379 --> 02:33:30,148secondary afterlife body and you'll wake

341902:33:27,270 --> 02:33:32,220up in real life but invisible you can

342002:33:30,148 --> 02:33:33,779walk down the street at night it's it's


342102:33:32,219 --> 02:33:36,929an interesting thing and I want to have

342202:33:33,780 --> 02:33:38,909some more to it all right you yeah

342302:33:36,930 --> 02:33:40,950Eugene I'm gonna cut you off right there

342402:33:38,909 --> 02:33:42,510we are gonna go to a break here at the

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349302:36:34,390 --> 02:36:38,779the last Monday of the month on

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349702:36:45,500 --> 02:36:49,940so much more with me

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352702:37:56,870 --> 02:38:02,000tonight's show welcome back for the

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352902:38:02,000 --> 02:38:06,920tonight I am your host Dave Scott thank

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353702:38:21,470 --> 02:38:25,369with us great show tonight with Eugene

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355902:39:15,109 --> 02:39:19,369in Eugene Braxton we've been talking

356002:39:17,209 --> 02:39:21,799absolutely everything tonight from ETS

356102:39:19,369 --> 02:39:25,578to OBEs now we're gonna get into the

356202:39:21,799 --> 02:39:27,049NDEs near death experiences Eugene I

3563


02:39:25,578 --> 02:39:29,959have had a lot of people on this show

356402:39:27,049 --> 02:39:31,938discuss this topic probably not as

356502:39:29,959 --> 02:39:36,049thorough as you have on previous

356602:39:31,939 --> 02:39:39,199episodes with James Tyson but this is

356702:39:36,049 --> 02:39:41,959either a very enlightening or a very

356802:39:39,199 --> 02:39:43,520scary encounter that people have when

356902:39:41,959 --> 02:39:45,799their body goes through a traumatic

357002:39:43,520 --> 02:39:48,680experience maybe an accident maybe

357102:39:45,799 --> 02:39:52,818cancer maybe a blood clot something

357202:39:48,680 --> 02:39:57,130along those lines and they see what is

357302:39:52,818 --> 02:39:57,129on the other side what are people seeing

357402:39:57,340 --> 02:40:10,398you say during a near-death or yes when

357502:40:06,889 --> 02:40:14,420people have a near-death usually okay

357602:40:10,398 --> 02:40:18,828the memory is a factor but when they do

357702:40:14,420 --> 02:40:22,699


see things they app and it's also the

357802:40:18,828 --> 02:40:25,609mixture of illusion and reality but

357902:40:22,699 --> 02:40:32,078children see grandfather figures sitting

358002:40:25,609 --> 02:40:39,290in a chair there are lakes scenic

358102:40:32,078 --> 02:40:42,289mountaintops lakes grassy fields there's

358202:40:39,290 --> 02:40:50,630been experiences have seen cities of

358302:40:42,290 --> 02:40:52,430gold in a more non illusionary way and

358402:40:50,629 --> 02:40:57,019those things are real as far as

358502:40:52,430 --> 02:40:58,279illusions but the real illusions and in

358602:40:57,020 --> 02:41:00,260the way that they're so real that they

358702:40:58,279 --> 02:41:02,359be more real than anything we do

358802:41:00,260 --> 02:41:07,148here on earth even though their their

358902:41:02,359 --> 02:41:07,149illusions but in reality they would see

359002:41:09,369 --> 02:41:29,600fogged background I have especially the

359102:41:14,090 --> 02:41:33,469life review veiled railed faces you can


359202:41:29,600 --> 02:41:38,359see colors that move and have sounds

359302:41:33,469 --> 02:41:41,778color red brown any any color you see

359402:41:38,359 --> 02:41:44,600light as this light gives off

359502:41:41,779 --> 02:41:48,949information and as well as healing and

359602:41:44,600 --> 02:41:52,568purifying the person you see you can

359702:41:48,949 --> 02:41:56,779actually see there there are moments in

359802:41:52,568 --> 02:41:58,609the afterlife where you have a lot of

359902:41:56,779 --> 02:42:00,439people talk about the control that they

360002:41:58,609 --> 02:42:05,328have in the afterlife and you do have

360102:42:00,439 --> 02:42:07,158some but it's not all control I mean you

360202:42:05,328 --> 02:42:09,680have some moments when you can explore

360302:42:07,158 --> 02:42:11,328and look around on your own free will

360402:42:09,680 --> 02:42:13,550and you have a conscious thought but

360502:42:11,328 --> 02:42:15,680there are other times when you are just


360602:42:13,549 --> 02:42:20,118assigned somewhere like the library you

360702:42:15,680 --> 02:42:21,920home or put go inside for the judgement

360802:42:20,119 --> 02:42:23,420lot of white lights over you're going

360902:42:21,920 --> 02:42:26,449into the white lights there are certain

361002:42:23,420 --> 02:42:28,158specific events that happen that the

361102:42:26,449 --> 02:42:30,408person's going to certain stages that

361202:42:28,158 --> 02:42:32,898happen but the person's good student

361302:42:30,408 --> 02:42:36,350naturally because they have to progress

361402:42:32,898 --> 02:42:38,988higher and higher but they see a variety

361502:42:36,350 --> 02:42:41,510of things and usually in the near-death

361602:42:38,988 --> 02:42:44,090it's mainly positive where the

361702:42:41,510 --> 02:42:46,369near-death brings final ecstasy as a lot

361802:42:44,090 --> 02:42:51,078of times the UFO experience brings final

361902:42:46,369 --> 02:42:55,578fear but it's usually uh rapturous

3620


02:42:51,078 --> 02:42:58,189things colors sound it's all in an

362102:42:55,578 --> 02:43:00,498ecstatic way and it should because

362202:42:58,189 --> 02:43:02,389there's a lot of happiness in the near

362302:43:00,498 --> 02:43:07,340death but there's a lot of illusions too

362402:43:02,389 --> 02:43:10,398and it's always a sub reality behind

362502:43:07,340 --> 02:43:12,049what people think is a little reality

362602:43:10,398 --> 02:43:14,239whether it be near death or your clothes

362702:43:12,049 --> 02:43:17,119and there's a sub reality behind them

362802:43:14,239 --> 02:43:20,000- that will it gonna explore further in

362902:43:17,120 --> 02:43:22,101the second book but you see a lot and

363002:43:20,000 --> 02:43:24,771you see with that different kind of is

363102:43:22,101 --> 02:43:27,260in the telescopic and a 360 degrees

363202:43:24,771 --> 02:43:30,351spherical vision where you can see 360

363302:43:27,260 --> 02:43:33,739degrees at anywhere in time and space

363402:43:30,351 --> 02:43:35,601


but you see a good amount what do you

363502:43:33,739 --> 02:43:41,659mean by illusions of near-death

363602:43:35,601 --> 02:43:44,540experiences the some a lot of what the

363702:43:41,659 --> 02:43:46,940near-death it's filled the illusions and

363802:43:44,540 --> 02:43:50,061realities are intertwined where the

363902:43:46,940 --> 02:43:53,420person's partially conscious and they're

364002:43:50,060 --> 02:43:55,699seeing some of the reality it's with the

364102:43:53,420 --> 02:43:58,610near-death and the UFO a lot of the

364202:43:55,700 --> 02:44:06,440reality of the experience is removed

364302:43:58,610 --> 02:44:10,610from our memory and so we get a a slice

364402:44:06,440 --> 02:44:12,980of the memory a scent of the memory

364502:44:10,610 --> 02:44:15,710without having the full thing and some

364602:44:12,979 --> 02:44:19,579illusions are placed on us in both

364702:44:15,709 --> 02:44:22,669near-death and UFO and some we put on

364802:44:19,579 --> 02:44:24,229ourselves but the illusions and


364902:44:22,670 --> 02:44:27,950realities are intertwined

365002:44:24,229 --> 02:44:29,119a person may that's where you have

365102:44:27,950 --> 02:44:31,909people think that they're talking to

365202:44:29,120 --> 02:44:35,329Elvis Presley horribly even with even

365302:44:31,909 --> 02:44:37,789Alexander he said that he was flying on

365402:44:35,329 --> 02:44:39,470a magic carpet with a Marilyn Monroe

365502:44:37,790 --> 02:44:42,400type of long he was looking at him

365602:44:39,470 --> 02:44:42,399that's an illusion

365702:44:43,840 --> 02:44:48,829and someone else could say standing

365802:44:46,190 --> 02:44:51,920before God is also an illusion but it's

365902:44:48,829 --> 02:44:54,200it's not an illusion um you can see in

366002:44:51,920 --> 02:44:57,159those things the reality and the

366102:44:54,200 --> 02:44:59,870illusions because especially when you

366202:44:57,159 --> 02:45:01,879peer into them long enough like when you


366302:44:59,870 --> 02:45:03,730focus on anything long you should begin

366402:45:01,879 --> 02:45:07,909to merge with it you become one with it

366502:45:03,729 --> 02:45:10,729I have a nice video that illustrates

366602:45:07,909 --> 02:45:12,409that fun to conquer TV show but once

366702:45:10,729 --> 02:45:13,760you've maintained that concentration

366802:45:12,409 --> 02:45:15,709with anything long enough you merged

366902:45:13,760 --> 02:45:18,409into one time I was concentrated on the

367002:45:15,709 --> 02:45:21,500squirrel and my out of my spirit body

367102:45:18,409 --> 02:45:24,379shot into his and shot back in mine in

367202:45:21,500 --> 02:45:27,569less than a second but I could see for a

367302:45:24,379 --> 02:45:31,470brief millisecond what he saw

367402:45:27,569 --> 02:45:33,959when he looked at me so I saw through

367502:45:31,470 --> 02:45:35,609his eyes myself sitting there but my

367602:45:33,959 --> 02:45:37,739spirit rushed through him and rushed

3677


02:45:35,610 --> 02:45:39,090back we were having a steering cuts you

367802:45:37,739 --> 02:45:39,420know I couldn't see an animal stare at

367902:45:39,090 --> 02:45:42,440you

368002:45:39,420 --> 02:45:45,271so I stared back into him and without

368102:45:42,440 --> 02:45:47,399realizing or wanting to my body and my

368202:45:45,271 --> 02:45:49,620spirit just merged with his in and out

368302:45:47,399 --> 02:45:51,779really quick within less than a second

368402:45:49,620 --> 02:45:53,540and I saw him from my angle that

368502:45:51,780 --> 02:45:55,801happened before during an out-of-body

368602:45:53,540 --> 02:45:58,141where I saw something moving the brush

368702:45:55,800 --> 02:45:58,560and as soon as I turned my attention to

368802:45:58,140 --> 02:46:00,629it

368902:45:58,560 --> 02:46:03,119my spirit body shot through there was

369002:46:00,629 --> 02:46:05,159some kind of rabbit or raccoon and I saw

369102:46:03,120 --> 02:46:07,561


he was extremely frightened at seeing me

369202:46:05,159 --> 02:46:09,479in astral form I shot her and then shot

369302:46:07,560 --> 02:46:10,800in my own body just to see what it was

369402:46:09,479 --> 02:46:13,140and I shot like through them so this

369502:46:10,800 --> 02:46:16,890merging quality has to be explored more

369602:46:13,140 --> 02:46:21,229because we've been doing that with the

369702:46:16,890 --> 02:46:26,449aliens in that second book research and

369802:46:21,229 --> 02:46:29,189that's where that stability of mind and

369902:46:26,450 --> 02:46:30,659it helps there's a lot of the illusions

370002:46:29,190 --> 02:46:32,370just like the illusion where a person is

370102:46:30,659 --> 02:46:34,200thinking that they're falling in a dream

370202:46:32,370 --> 02:46:36,721then really they're just having a game

370302:46:34,200 --> 02:46:38,340going you know falling into the thick so

370402:46:36,720 --> 02:46:40,261those kind of things but after you have

370502:46:38,340 --> 02:46:43,500enough of them you get to see the


370602:46:40,261 --> 02:46:45,000illusions over there and the more you

370702:46:43,500 --> 02:46:46,590keep your emotions under control the

370802:46:45,000 --> 02:46:48,690more you can see the reality and

370902:46:46,590 --> 02:46:50,460illusion the illusion usually brings

371002:46:48,690 --> 02:46:53,340some kind of emotions to the person and

371102:46:50,459 --> 02:46:55,890whether near-death a UFO or out of Buddy

371202:46:53,340 --> 02:46:58,220gonna watch any kind of emotional ups or

371302:46:55,890 --> 02:47:01,890downs you want to keep steady and calm

371402:46:58,220 --> 02:47:03,390it's just like mr. Spock Tyco would want

371502:47:01,890 --> 02:47:05,640to keep just like that so you can see

371602:47:03,390 --> 02:47:07,440the reality of what's really happening

371702:47:05,640 --> 02:47:09,239and if you look long enough in that

371802:47:07,440 --> 02:47:11,130world you'll see what you're looking for

371902:47:09,239 --> 02:47:14,190you'll see it a lot quicker than you'll


372002:47:11,129 --> 02:47:17,339see it here so that spiritual vision and

372102:47:14,190 --> 02:47:20,011the clarity of spiritual spiritual

372202:47:17,340 --> 02:47:22,351vision is important it's after you do it

372302:47:20,011 --> 02:47:24,239long enough you'll get used to it but

372402:47:22,351 --> 02:47:29,819the breathing's is the thing that will

372502:47:24,239 --> 02:47:31,949kick all that stuff are off well what

372602:47:29,819 --> 02:47:36,110about the tunnel people are seeing the

372702:47:31,950 --> 02:47:39,240tunnel of light in the near death yes

372802:47:36,110 --> 02:47:41,248that's an illusion the tunnel is really

372902:47:39,239 --> 02:47:43,949when the person is coming out of this

373002:47:41,248 --> 02:47:46,349body the person is paralyzed with rigor

373102:47:43,949 --> 02:47:48,479mortis they believe that they're going

373202:47:46,349 --> 02:47:50,338through a tunnel when actually their

373302:47:48,478 --> 02:47:53,759spirit body is just coming out of the

3734


02:47:50,338 --> 02:47:55,738physical body I've had so many that I

373502:47:53,759 --> 02:47:56,849know exactly that tunnel feeling you

373602:47:55,738 --> 02:47:58,948know the person feels like they're

373702:47:56,849 --> 02:48:00,539squeezed in or compressed used to have a

373802:47:58,949 --> 02:48:02,759thing where I felt like I was in a

373902:48:00,539 --> 02:48:05,338coffin that was the tunnel type of thing

374002:48:02,759 --> 02:48:07,109and the tunnel is really like a person

374102:48:05,338 --> 02:48:09,148is paralyzed and they're changing into

374202:48:07,109 --> 02:48:12,059spiritual form but they see it as a

374302:48:09,148 --> 02:48:15,388tunnel and usually that spirit comes out

374402:48:12,058 --> 02:48:17,338of your the head area the front or the

374502:48:15,388 --> 02:48:20,009back and that's where it can be

374602:48:17,338 --> 02:48:21,959perceived as a tunnel to because it's

374702:48:20,009 --> 02:48:24,328something big coming out of something

374802:48:21,959 --> 02:48:27,269


small but there is no actual conscious

374902:48:24,328 --> 02:48:29,849it's a spiritual illusion does it feel

375002:48:27,269 --> 02:48:31,978like flying a lot of people have

375102:48:29,849 --> 02:48:33,509expressed that it almost feels like they

375202:48:31,978 --> 02:48:35,878have wings and they feel like they're in

375302:48:33,509 --> 02:48:38,248an aircraft just flying with the wind

375402:48:35,879 --> 02:48:41,999blowing through their hair and and on

375502:48:38,248 --> 02:48:44,429their face you can when you're in that

375602:48:41,998 --> 02:48:47,458spirit body astral or out-of-body form

375702:48:44,429 --> 02:48:49,228you can feel every feelings that you

375802:48:47,459 --> 02:48:51,119would have evidence the clouds you can

375902:48:49,228 --> 02:48:52,858see the clouds going past you and it

376002:48:51,119 --> 02:48:54,809feels a little moisture and should go

376102:48:52,859 --> 02:48:57,959through the clouds you can look down and

376202:48:54,808 --> 02:48:59,878see trees and life moving all about


376302:48:57,959 --> 02:49:01,319there you can breathe the air you can

376402:48:59,879 --> 02:49:02,939smell the air even though you're an

376502:49:01,318 --> 02:49:05,308astral cone you can actually smell it

376602:49:02,939 --> 02:49:07,529better in Nashville but you can see the

376702:49:05,308 --> 02:49:10,108clouds this is would be in real time too

376802:49:07,529 --> 02:49:11,668and in there after foam you merge with

376902:49:10,109 --> 02:49:15,779it you merged with everything that

377002:49:11,668 --> 02:49:18,718sounds the lights the Sun the the

377102:49:15,779 --> 02:49:21,029universe is that heartbeat that the

377202:49:18,718 --> 02:49:22,828earth has you just you're you are the

377302:49:21,029 --> 02:49:25,049same thing and you have your one with it

377402:49:22,828 --> 02:49:26,968and that's where that Universal

377502:49:25,049 --> 02:49:29,789knowledge that cosmic knowledge comes in

377602:49:26,968 --> 02:49:32,158and you're absorbing and taking a cosmic


377702:49:29,789 --> 02:49:33,449bath in cosmic energy that's why it's so

377802:49:32,158 --> 02:49:36,019good to have the other body because the

377902:49:33,449 --> 02:49:40,168person comes back different and

378002:49:36,019 --> 02:49:41,969noticeably different subtly but but it's

378102:49:40,168 --> 02:49:44,668a good thing to have could be advantages

378202:49:41,968 --> 02:49:47,608outweigh any inconveniences and you can

378302:49:44,668 --> 02:49:49,558pop into another body from a dream just

378402:49:47,609 --> 02:49:51,389like the dream of flying I had this one

378502:49:49,558 --> 02:49:53,038dream where I was on the trapeze after

378602:49:51,388 --> 02:49:54,989climbing a ladder high up and it was so

378702:49:53,039 --> 02:49:56,880real that there were snow

378802:49:54,989 --> 02:49:59,190my feet can I move my feet away because

378902:49:56,879 --> 02:50:00,959of his cold I was really I could see the

379002:49:59,190 --> 02:50:03,989snow on the trapeze around my foot I

3791


02:50:00,959 --> 02:50:05,850look down so it's super real and that's

379202:50:03,989 --> 02:50:07,351one way you can that's one way the

379302:50:05,851 --> 02:50:09,630person can say wait a second I'm not

379402:50:07,351 --> 02:50:11,730dreaming I can feel like the snow on my

379502:50:09,629 --> 02:50:14,189feet or I can feel the clouds moving by

379602:50:11,729 --> 02:50:17,609me as I fly you can decide to go up and

379702:50:14,190 --> 02:50:19,079down but it's definitely something the

379802:50:17,610 --> 02:50:21,630person should try and it's something

379902:50:19,079 --> 02:50:23,310that can do and it's really them just

380002:50:21,629 --> 02:50:26,399getting back in touch with their own

380102:50:23,310 --> 02:50:28,079inner higher self and that self can help

380202:50:26,399 --> 02:50:29,549you out a lot here in this world so

380302:50:28,079 --> 02:50:35,129that's why it's important to get to know

380402:50:29,549 --> 02:50:38,340it it wants to help you a lot of people

380502:50:35,129 --> 02:50:40,529


who have a near-death experience say

380602:50:38,340 --> 02:50:44,190they are greeted by family and friends

380702:50:40,530 --> 02:50:46,050who have previously moved onward is this

380802:50:44,190 --> 02:50:47,819normal for a lot of people to be greeted

380902:50:46,049 --> 02:50:52,920on the other side by family and friends

381002:50:47,819 --> 02:50:56,220or is that illusionary as well I think

381102:50:52,920 --> 02:51:02,390that if the persons in a near-death

381202:50:56,220 --> 02:51:02,390out-of-body state that they could meet I

381302:51:04,069 --> 02:51:08,549think that they could definitely meet

381402:51:06,120 --> 02:51:11,370with their loved ones who have passed on

381502:51:08,549 --> 02:51:17,209but what's probably really happening is

381602:51:11,370 --> 02:51:20,010then meeting with the memories or the

381702:51:17,209 --> 02:51:23,489unfulfilled wishes of those who have

381802:51:20,010 --> 02:51:27,030passed on this like when the person

381902:51:23,489 --> 02:51:29,159finally dies and and in lives again and


382002:51:27,030 --> 02:51:32,909goes into heaven emerges of God and then

382102:51:29,159 --> 02:51:41,780goes on there's like a further expansion

382202:51:32,909 --> 02:51:45,860of consciousness and also more

382302:51:41,780 --> 02:51:48,840assimilation into the greater

382402:51:45,860 --> 02:51:51,079consciousness where the person still

382502:51:48,840 --> 02:51:55,229retains their own individual personality

382602:51:51,079 --> 02:51:57,239although there have also urged and

382702:51:55,229 --> 02:51:59,909assimilated with that higher

382802:51:57,239 --> 02:52:01,681consciousness - and I spoke of a dual

382902:51:59,909 --> 02:52:04,289consciousness when the person hasn't had

383002:52:01,681 --> 02:52:07,110a body where someone could prick you

383102:52:04,290 --> 02:52:08,490with a needle your physical body when

383202:52:07,110 --> 02:52:09,000you're in an out-of-body state you could

383302:52:08,489 --> 02:52:12,059see the


383402:52:09,000 --> 02:52:14,250from 15 feet up touching your physical

383502:52:12,059 --> 02:52:16,199body in your astral body would feel vice

383602:52:14,250 --> 02:52:18,270versa whatever happens to the ash for

383702:52:16,200 --> 02:52:26,729your physical feel we feel it and it

383802:52:18,270 --> 02:52:30,569would chill up too but that's it's a

383902:52:26,728 --> 02:52:33,500it's all it's all good all of that stuff

384002:52:30,568 --> 02:52:36,478it's so worth it

384102:52:33,500 --> 02:52:42,299but as far as the people meeting loved

384202:52:36,478 --> 02:52:46,949ones definitely it could happen but the

384302:52:42,299 --> 02:52:49,199reality of it is more a wish fulfillment

384402:52:46,950 --> 02:52:51,479because although alive

384502:52:49,200 --> 02:52:53,279those people have progressed to the

384602:52:51,478 --> 02:52:56,629higher levels where they're not they're

384702:52:53,279 --> 02:52:59,370just pinpoints of consciousness or even

3848


02:52:56,629 --> 02:53:04,199less than that they're still alive but

384902:52:59,370 --> 02:53:06,600they D materialized into a super fine

385002:53:04,200 --> 02:53:10,079essence that can only be experienced or

385102:53:06,600 --> 02:53:11,270felt not fully seen but definitely I

385202:53:10,079 --> 02:53:16,680would think that you can communicate

385302:53:11,270 --> 02:53:20,460with you with them but in reality what's

385402:53:16,680 --> 02:53:25,020happening is probably that I desire that

385502:53:20,459 --> 02:53:28,079they wish they could fulfill or at the

385602:53:25,020 --> 02:53:30,149other some kind of because their people

385702:53:28,079 --> 02:53:32,639have long gone on and merged with the

385802:53:30,148 --> 02:53:34,318higher thing the person will never die

385902:53:32,639 --> 02:53:39,528and they will never lose their

386002:53:34,318 --> 02:53:42,510individual consciousness but there is a

386102:53:39,529 --> 02:53:45,029merging into the greater whole and that

386202:53:42,510 --> 02:53:48,870


comes away after but the person will

386302:53:45,029 --> 02:53:51,180live on and in that final in that higher

386402:53:48,870 --> 02:53:54,270merging where you become an expanded

386502:53:51,180 --> 02:53:56,159essence then you probably have more of a

386602:53:54,270 --> 02:53:58,350chance of meeting up with your local say

386702:53:56,159 --> 02:53:59,969you had a son or daughter and definitely

386802:53:58,350 --> 02:54:02,880the longing to see them because I have a

386902:53:59,969 --> 02:54:05,760son would attract either you to them or

387002:54:02,879 --> 02:54:07,799them to you and in those higher because

387102:54:05,760 --> 02:54:09,389there's episodes after death

387202:54:07,799 --> 02:54:11,340progressions are like levels that the

387302:54:09,389 --> 02:54:14,369person takes to get to that highest

387402:54:11,340 --> 02:54:16,829state of where there is no actual body

387502:54:14,370 --> 02:54:18,540they're just essence that teeny I call

387602:54:16,829 --> 02:54:20,488it a teeming soul essence where you're


387702:54:18,540 --> 02:54:22,920like the essence of like a soft drink

387802:54:20,488 --> 02:54:25,590like a sprite or 7up minutes

387902:54:22,920 --> 02:54:27,299there's a the spirit body that's one of

388002:54:25,590 --> 02:54:29,880the highest states that can get to and

388102:54:27,299 --> 02:54:31,409when you're just all thought and of

388202:54:29,879 --> 02:54:33,750course in that state it emerged into

388302:54:31,409 --> 02:54:36,149anything and in all of the states but

388402:54:33,750 --> 02:54:38,370then your pure energy and thought then

388502:54:36,149 --> 02:54:40,409and just a pinpoint of consciousness and

388602:54:38,370 --> 02:54:42,810that's where you can merge into the

388702:54:40,409 --> 02:54:45,000greater that that's final merging into

388802:54:42,809 --> 02:54:48,479the all that's interesting too because

388902:54:45,000 --> 02:54:53,340you just absorbed into it but that's a

389002:54:48,479 --> 02:54:56,789good question game have you ever met


389102:54:53,340 --> 02:55:00,210someone who has actually been through

389202:54:56,790 --> 02:55:03,150their judgment during a near-death

389302:55:00,209 --> 02:55:05,459experience and the reason why I ask is I

389402:55:03,149 --> 02:55:07,409have a good friend of mine his name is

389502:55:05,459 --> 02:55:12,059Daryl he's going to come on this show in

389602:55:07,409 --> 02:55:15,149August to discuss what happened to him

389702:55:12,059 --> 02:55:17,670as he recalled his judgment during a

389802:55:15,149 --> 02:55:24,139near-death experience after having a

389902:55:17,670 --> 02:55:27,540brain aneurysm and on this side it took

390002:55:24,139 --> 02:55:33,559three weeks up there he said it felt

390102:55:27,540 --> 02:55:38,820like a very long few hours okay

390202:55:33,559 --> 02:55:40,949have you ever heard of that have I ever

390302:55:38,819 --> 02:55:44,789heard of a person going through the

390402:55:40,950 --> 02:55:46,740judgment phase yes yes yeah a lot of

3905


02:55:44,790 --> 02:55:50,310enough a lot of experiences talking

390602:55:46,739 --> 02:55:52,530about their judgments it be interesting

390702:55:50,309 --> 02:55:55,079to hear his because that that is real

390802:55:52,530 --> 02:55:56,430and I'm glad he recalled that that's

390902:55:55,079 --> 02:55:58,440something that you probably could not

391002:55:56,430 --> 02:56:01,790forget but they would be definitely

391102:55:58,440 --> 02:56:05,210interesting to hear his is his

391202:56:01,790 --> 02:56:08,160experience and that's you saying July

391302:56:05,209 --> 02:56:11,429August yes City mentioned that he

391402:56:08,159 --> 02:56:15,590mentioned levitation yes

391502:56:11,430 --> 02:56:21,090he actually recalls he actually recalls

391602:56:15,590 --> 02:56:23,309standing in like like a courtroom and I

391702:56:21,090 --> 02:56:25,469I'm getting I'm saying this story

391802:56:23,309 --> 02:56:27,449secondhand but he actually recalls

391902:56:25,469 --> 02:56:30,269


almost being like in a courtroom where

392002:56:27,450 --> 02:56:33,840the devil was on his left and going

392102:56:30,270 --> 02:56:36,420through absolutely every single thing he

392202:56:33,840 --> 02:56:38,908did wrong his entire life

392302:56:36,420 --> 02:56:42,960and he said he had Jesus on his right as

392402:56:38,908 --> 02:56:45,059his lawyer and God was the judge and he

392502:56:42,959 --> 02:56:49,139never looked at God because he was so

392602:56:45,059 --> 02:56:52,648ashamed but he said the feeling was

392702:56:49,139 --> 02:56:54,840absolutely immensely awesome and he felt

392802:56:52,648 --> 02:56:59,879very shameful when he was put in that

392902:56:54,840 --> 02:57:04,020situation yes he he described it

393002:56:59,879 --> 02:57:06,478perfectly now there is the science in

393102:57:04,020 --> 02:57:10,529the world authorities asked if there was

393202:57:06,478 --> 02:57:14,639any kind of mediator in the time of the

393302:57:10,529 --> 02:57:18,840life review or the judgment and there


393402:57:14,639 --> 02:57:21,180was some kind of super lawyer pleading

393502:57:18,840 --> 02:57:24,270not pleading but speaking in my behalf

393602:57:21,180 --> 02:57:27,120that was with my near-death and so his

393702:57:24,270 --> 02:57:32,270was just like that I didn't have any

393802:57:27,120 --> 02:57:36,060kind of adversary it was just me this

393902:57:32,270 --> 02:57:39,120mediator who may or may not have been

394002:57:36,059 --> 02:57:42,680Jesus but there was someone who had the

394102:57:39,120 --> 02:57:45,239authority to speak to God for me and

394202:57:42,680 --> 02:57:47,010like you said I at that time I couldn't

394302:57:45,238 --> 02:57:50,250see beyond I couldn't even see the

394402:57:47,010 --> 02:57:53,699mediator that's how Jim you know that

394502:57:50,250 --> 02:57:56,158but there is a God there was a judgment

394602:57:53,699 --> 02:57:58,408and there was someone acting or speaking

394702:57:56,158 --> 02:58:03,478in my behalf and I've been glad because


394802:57:58,408 --> 02:58:05,939you know this a person doesn't have the

394902:58:03,478 --> 02:58:08,549eloquence to speak to God but this

395002:58:05,939 --> 02:58:12,270mediator only listed every good thing

395102:58:08,549 --> 02:58:15,090and I was only 15 so you know this like

395202:58:12,270 --> 02:58:17,520that you it's a first thing and even if

395302:58:15,090 --> 02:58:19,529you just believe that's all you need

395402:58:17,520 --> 02:58:23,399everything else can be arranged or

395502:58:19,529 --> 02:58:26,899worked out that's where God has he has

395602:58:23,398 --> 02:58:29,278that thing and he rewards amply Horace

395702:58:26,898 --> 02:58:31,408you know if people want to know things

395802:58:29,279 --> 02:58:34,439if people want to know things and then

395902:58:31,408 --> 02:58:35,969they denied the the master teacher who

396002:58:34,439 --> 02:58:37,859could easily tell them to tell them

396102:58:35,969 --> 02:58:39,510those things that same night there's a

3962


02:58:37,859 --> 02:58:41,579lot of knowledge and a lot of things

396302:58:39,510 --> 02:58:44,148that are given from God in people's

396402:58:41,579 --> 02:58:47,609that's the first thing that should go to

396502:58:44,148 --> 02:58:48,930when they do yes Eugene sorry to cut you

396602:58:47,609 --> 02:58:49,319off because we are running out of time

396702:58:48,930 --> 02:58:50,610we only

396802:58:49,319 --> 02:58:53,129about three minutes and I got a couple

396902:58:50,610 --> 02:58:56,040questions I want to get in bill in the

397002:58:53,129 --> 02:58:58,050SOR space travelers room is asking is it

397102:58:56,040 --> 02:59:00,301possible to get pulled into a near-death

397202:58:58,050 --> 02:59:02,609experience where the spirits on the

397302:59:00,300 --> 02:59:09,090other side try to keep you there instead

397402:59:02,610 --> 02:59:11,069of returning to your body yeah I could

397502:59:09,090 --> 02:59:13,280yeah that could happen and a lot of

397602:59:11,069 --> 02:59:15,869


people would stay - I would have stayed

397702:59:13,280 --> 02:59:19,530it's such a condition and you gotta

397802:59:15,870 --> 02:59:21,990watch to see if it's beneficial that you

397902:59:19,530 --> 02:59:24,690don't want to go there's a strong pull

398002:59:21,989 --> 02:59:26,250almost the same repulsion that's the

398102:59:24,690 --> 02:59:29,610oppositely same repulsion that some

398202:59:26,250 --> 02:59:31,470people have the alien abductions the

398302:59:29,610 --> 02:59:35,940opposite way for the UFO where you're

398402:59:31,470 --> 02:59:38,629just emotionally longing to stay there

398502:59:35,940 --> 02:59:40,771and be there and that's suspicious -

398602:59:38,629 --> 02:59:43,439just because it's a near-death doesn't

398702:59:40,771 --> 02:59:45,090mean that you have to you know accept

398802:59:43,440 --> 02:59:47,101anything it's good to double-check

398902:59:45,090 --> 02:59:49,351everything but any kind of strong

399002:59:47,101 --> 02:59:52,021emotions something we've watched like


399102:59:49,351 --> 02:59:54,239yeah that could happen and people would

399202:59:52,021 --> 02:59:54,931today and the final question for you

399302:59:54,239 --> 02:59:57,629tonight

399402:59:54,931 --> 03:00:00,239it comes from Eric and paranormal forum

399502:59:57,629 --> 03:00:02,520can a person do so badly in a life

399603:00:00,239 --> 03:00:04,500experience that they actually have to

399703:00:02,521 --> 03:00:10,261move backwards in the spiritual

399803:00:04,500 --> 03:00:12,690evolution no I don't think they would

399903:00:10,261 --> 03:00:16,409have to move backwards because even if a

400003:00:12,690 --> 03:00:18,000person lived did nothing in the

400103:00:16,409 --> 03:00:20,011spiritual life they'd still be at that

400203:00:18,000 --> 03:00:21,420same spot so they I don't think they

400303:00:20,011 --> 03:00:23,399would move backwards that's always the

400403:00:21,420 --> 03:00:26,129thing where you always move forward and


400503:00:23,399 --> 03:00:27,840even learning the lesson that you didn't

400603:00:26,129 --> 03:00:31,529do nothing would be so a lesson learned

400703:00:27,840 --> 03:00:33,870so there's no kind of regression in that

400803:00:31,530 --> 03:00:36,601spiritual way it's it's always a moving

400903:00:33,870 --> 03:00:38,460upward it's really positive but it's

401003:00:36,601 --> 03:00:41,190good to be sore and have common sense in

401103:00:38,459 --> 03:00:42,569it you know okay don't you know that's

401203:00:41,190 --> 03:00:44,700just like the normal things I'm totally

401303:00:42,569 --> 03:00:46,289screams you gotta watch it you just the

401403:00:44,700 --> 03:00:48,990first thing listen you have to be

401503:00:46,290 --> 03:00:50,940careful with everything and double-check

401603:00:48,989 --> 03:00:53,670everything don't automatically trust

401703:00:50,940 --> 03:00:55,530that beings are cool double-check

401803:00:53,670 --> 03:00:56,790everything be careful and because

4019


03:00:55,530 --> 03:00:59,250remember you're on your own especially

402003:00:56,790 --> 03:01:01,920if you don't have that god power but

402103:00:59,250 --> 03:01:02,850just check double check things out it's

402203:01:01,920 --> 03:01:05,658good to have a

402303:01:02,850 --> 03:01:07,890this ISM and non-trust with those things

402403:01:05,658 --> 03:01:09,898that's what made me see that these

402503:01:07,889 --> 03:01:13,049things are real I just denied them and

402603:01:09,898 --> 03:01:14,430you know but it's good to be careful

402703:01:13,049 --> 03:01:16,769with the spiritual but there's a lot of

402803:01:14,430 --> 03:01:18,359good benefit you're well balanced have

402903:01:16,770 --> 03:01:22,050some kind of belief system you'll do

403003:01:18,359 --> 03:01:23,760well in the spiritual wage but

403103:01:22,049 --> 03:01:25,978definitely have that anchor definitely

403203:01:23,760 --> 03:01:29,010have that protection that that can bring

403303:01:25,978 --> 03:01:30,539


you gene we have about 30 seconds I want

403403:01:29,010 --> 03:01:33,540you to tell everyone where they can find

403503:01:30,540 --> 03:01:35,819your book yeah you can find it on my

403603:01:33,540 --> 03:01:38,609website my website can be found online

403703:01:35,818 --> 03:01:40,859just type in my name or America's most

403803:01:38,609 --> 03:01:43,079experienced mystic you can order the

403903:01:40,859 --> 03:01:45,149book from there anyone who orders

404003:01:43,079 --> 03:01:46,949tonight I'll give them half off in the

404103:01:45,148 --> 03:01:48,439next 24 hours if you like to get one

404203:01:46,949 --> 03:01:50,908I'll give you half off on the book

404303:01:48,439 --> 03:01:52,738mention that you heard Eugene on

404403:01:50,908 --> 03:01:55,219spaced-out radio that's really nice of

404503:01:52,738 --> 03:01:57,898you to do that Eugene thank you so much

404603:01:55,219 --> 03:02:00,510you're welcome - always a pleasure to

404703:01:57,898 --> 03:02:02,519have you you hold on I'm gonna take the


404803:02:00,510 --> 03:02:07,920show out we're gonna get to a little

404903:02:02,520 --> 03:02:10,170bumblefoot now yeah thank you we are

405003:02:07,920 --> 03:02:11,670wrapping things up on this Wednesday

405103:02:10,170 --> 03:02:15,270night well I guess it's Thursday morning

405203:02:11,670 --> 03:02:17,728now for all of us thank you so much for

405303:02:15,270 --> 03:02:20,340joining in on the spaced out radio show

405403:02:17,728 --> 03:02:24,049tonight with Eugene Braxton what a guest

405503:02:20,340 --> 03:02:26,670I love the guy you know he really is an

405603:02:24,049 --> 03:02:29,099inspiration for the experiences he's had

405703:02:26,670 --> 03:02:31,439and he's here every night listening to

405803:02:29,100 --> 03:02:33,140the show it's always in the chat room

405903:02:31,439 --> 03:02:35,970always has something to say

406003:02:33,139 --> 03:02:38,488brilliant brilliant man I want to give a

406103:02:35,969 --> 03:02:42,179shout out to John Smith in Cambre


406203:02:38,488 --> 03:02:43,948Ontario brand new listener brought in to

406303:02:42,180 --> 03:02:45,779check out the show he's loving the show

406403:02:43,949 --> 03:02:49,199John thank you for giving us your time

406503:02:45,779 --> 03:02:51,710and your opportunity to earn your

406603:02:49,199 --> 03:02:55,619listening ears we really appreciate that

406703:02:51,709 --> 03:02:58,679John Smith in Ontario thank you so much

406803:02:55,619 --> 03:03:03,449as our audience is ever-expanding if you

406903:02:58,680 --> 03:03:05,250got a new listener that is tuning in let

407003:03:03,449 --> 03:03:08,460me know love to give them a shout out on

407103:03:05,250 --> 03:03:09,439the air it's only fair you're sharing

407203:03:08,459 --> 03:03:12,179your time with me

407303:03:09,439 --> 03:03:14,189remember tomorrow night Victor be gianni

407403:03:12,180 --> 03:03:15,090UFOs and disclosure is the hot-button

407503:03:14,189 --> 03:03:16,689topic

4076


03:03:15,090 --> 03:03:18,760want to say thank you to every

407703:03:16,689 --> 03:03:21,220one who's listening in on the SHRM Media

407803:03:18,760 --> 03:03:23,050Network tonight paranormal forum the

407903:03:21,219 --> 03:03:25,898spaced-out radio chat room on Spreaker

408003:03:23,049 --> 03:03:29,469and on Facebook at Uwe for your

408103:03:25,898 --> 03:03:31,568chronicles and the SOR space travelers a

408203:03:29,469 --> 03:03:33,519great show tonight

408303:03:31,568 --> 03:03:35,948remember you can follow us on twitter at

408403:03:33,520 --> 03:03:38,828space out radio give our Facebook page a

408503:03:35,949 --> 03:03:41,800like spaced out radio show on Instagram

408603:03:38,828 --> 03:03:44,020I can be followed a Dave Scott SOR our


408803:03:44,020 --> 03:03:49,328and our website which is gonna have a

408903:03:46,748 --> 03:03:53,260new look to it very very soon is spaced

409003:03:49,328 --> 03:03:56,260


out radio calm once again our music

409103:03:53,260 --> 03:03:59,920provided by the guitar God himself

409203:03:56,260 --> 03:04:02,578Ron bumblefoot Thal formerly a GNR now

409303:03:59,920 --> 03:04:05,228art of anarchy and on his solo career

409403:04:02,578 --> 03:04:06,260rocking it out we'll talk to you in 21

409503:04:05,228 --> 03:04:09,638hours good night

409603:04:06,260 --> 03:04:09,639[Music]

409703:04:11,911 --> 03:04:18,091new totality reinstate a thousand eyes

409803:04:15,361 --> 03:04:20,841are waiting for you to break the stay

409903:04:18,091 --> 03:04:22,350and I don't make a mistake we're

410003:04:20,841 --> 03:04:32,409watching

410103:04:22,350 --> 03:04:37,550[Music]

410203:04:32,409 --> 03:04:40,750[Applause]

410303:04:37,549 --> 03:04:40,750[Music]

410403:04:50,209 --> 03:04:53,339[Applause]


410503:04:53,399 --> 03:05:10,828[Music]

410603:05:08,770 --> 03:05:10,828you

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