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EDITORIAL

The fa ctory photos on pages seven anO eJght of thJs Issue have come to Ole via a circuitous fOute one havioa already appeared in the newsle tter of oor sister or830isation the Australia n V-Type Register

Cars for Sale

VA 19S0 Saloon c omp lete rebuild re~u jar use MOT spares ori$inaJ nlalual~ reJO no ~te U 95Ii Tel Somcent-rset fnr ~5

~esetteC EditorResistrar lC La1rSoD LIver-pool UK Spares Sec retary oew fipares ARrier York UK Spares Co-ordloator (secood-haol1 sparesJ DWulJeo Liverpool

~ 2he Amiddotustralian V- Type Re~jsler ALSJaHery Queens lznd Austra lia

Tbe ~C Y Type Re~ister of Soutb AfriciI n RLawrence 8oksburs Republic of South Afric a

MG Resister Daomarl FNeuOIaoo OenOlarlL

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Register

Around the world those V-Types stUl keep turning up Thanks to James Hun ter of Peachtree City Georgia (thets the one in the U S A) I have three oelol YTs to report They are

Regist er No 1183 YIT uS3 1950 Red with off-white~ 1nter10r owner Morton A Harr1S of Georgia

No1184 YTEX(U) 3033 1949 Dk Blue with Lt Blue amp White int owner Bryson Leslie of Tennessee

No 1185 YT E XR 2856 1949 Clipper Blue with biscuU int ovner Al Doheny of Georgia

Back home now (briefly) and Mike Silk has fOWld out more about the bright red Y in at Naylor Bros for res toration (mentioned in the last issuegt It is Y6551 (engine no 5C 1629Sgt I have ollocated it No II86 on the Register

J ohn Cochrane from Co Durham has been providing auch valuable i nformati on on hi s two 1952 YBs of late Ue has been restoring Y80686 for some years but has recently acquired a spares car -hlch is new t o me YB0698 (allocated No li 87 on the Register) has been lying eroWld derelic t for the last fHteen years It is LBM602 has engine number SC2I17583 and is grey in col our with a maroon interior When John ecqu1red the vehicle he found it was fitted with a heater and a rediator blind just like those described i n TCYI26 NOJ sone experts have said that there never were any home-market YEs orlgin611y fi nished 1n Silver S treak Grey an earl y metallic paint Well according to 1B0686 s log book it was grey in 1964 (6nd as tesprayed BRG in 1972 ) Sales brochures indicate that 1952 YBs could be supplied 1n grey whereas in 1953 the grey shade became Silver Streak Grey Just to confuse you further YB0696 (the neW-cllr) is presently grey but per its log book was originally white other expert s middot maintain that there never were any Old EngliSh White YSs Whete ve r Y80686 VEV228 whi ch was rescued froUl a cliff top is g010g to be finished in Silver Streak Grey to go with U s maroon interior Thanks John for an interesting puzzle

Sadly one of J ohns friends Angus Tallentlre a long-time Y-Type oloIOer and wi nner of many awards wi t h YB 1184 (see page 50 of my book) pessed ewoy recently Our condolences go to his family and friends at this sad time

NLt=936 recent l y turned up So Jhat I hear you say well I had had NLF9 49 on the Iltegister sinc e our very early days ltl9 7~179-ish) 949 i s YBI0~O and was black Now 1 discover thanks t o its owner MrIOy Scopes of

Ips wich that N LJ-8Jti is rtH052 and Io18S also possibly black originally Neat that i snt it YlH05G had engine n umber SC2 17 9-4-0 originally but has acquired rep lacement engine F864-11 at some tilDe in its liie It has been middota ll ocated No 1188 on our Register

Now quickly over to Australia where Tony Slat tery has discovered three new uos for us They ar e

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Register No 1189 Y 1096 a 1947 wreck (J1th engine no SCX10835) No 1190 Y 1228 bull 1948 cae io Victoria with eng SCXI0976 No 1191 Y 3934 bull I ~H9 car in Tasmania with eng SCX13707 No 1192 y 6668 a J951 colt in N S W with engine SCX16501

Twe lve hundred up soon

Y (i40 7 has had an interesting life It started out in COlllbridgeshire 1n 1951 and is tho ught to hOve been exported t o the U 5 11 1n 1977 It passed thro ugh two Cal i forn i an owners before being recently exported to SIoIitzerl iuId and its ne o lolFler Dr To bias S tuder of

Another 1951 c ~r Y 6396 ( No 1 196 on t he Register) has r-ecently been bought by Mr PJHo i l lngdale of i n Scotland Unfortunately on its journe y up no rth on a transporter the sunroof blew off and disappeored for eve r s omeWhere near Oxford Long-t lme r eaders of tllis nelolSletter 1J111 recognise of cour s e that th i s isn t the fi rst time this kind of thing has ha ppened $t 111 if tlnyone has e spare sunroof available MrHollingdale can be contacted at Ross-shire Y 6396 has e ngine number 5Ci6 16 7 and i s Maroon ~ilh ~ r ed interior

And l a stly neS o f the other YB picturCd on paRe SO of my book Wegister No49 6 (YB0610 MYW10) was recently exported to Jim Carroll of

Ohio via The Old Star Corage Yorkshire keaders ~ight rec all t hat this car was featured in ~ very inacc urate article in the M G Enthusi a st 1D8gazine Ilany years ago It ytlS Old English White then AutllDlO Red - though maybe not Old English rite originally eh

L ETTERS

Dear J Ohll

Apro pos the firt iele in the newsletter abou t radiator blinds I can confirm thut these were a pro prietary fitting r a ther than an optional factory extra still less a home- made device

r well remember my father htlving one fi t ted to his 19~ Wol s eley ~ight a na I r-e ck on you ore correct in assuming that the 11st s 1n the newsletter were print e d ufter the last Y as produced Ml earlier list wouid allDost c Ort o inly includ o the Y tyroe Altho llRh o ur blind was fitted a round t~~O

wll tl n the t ilr n s no 10nxe( in pl oducl ion th e re wa s no d111iculty in obtrlin i o it f ro Ul whichever s uppl i e r Ie used

1 reme mlJe II worked by a bowde n cable rwming through s teel boils ooIfIiCh locat e d in a slot on the das hboard plate thus giving a wide range of adjus tment It wa s a very effmiddotective device for rapid warning up and the only trou~le we had was when the cable b rOKe and fell on the plugs which s ho rted out ana stopp~ the e ngine

Trevor Aust ln Surrey

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Register No 1189 Y 1096 a 1947 wreck (J1th engine no SCX10835) No 1190 Y 1228 bull 1948 cae io Victoria with eng SCXI0976 No 1191 Y 3934 bull I ~H9 car in Tasmania with eng SCX13707 No 1192 y 6668 a J951 colt in N S W with engine SCX16501

Twe lve hundred up soon

Y (i40 7 has had an interesting life It started out in COlllbridgeshire 1n 1951 and is tho ught to hOve been exported t o the U 5 11 1n 1977 It passed thro ugh two Cal i forn i an owners before being recently exported to SIoIitzerl iuId and its ne o lolFler Dr To bias S tuder of

Another 1951 c ~r Y 6396 ( No 1 196 on t he Register) has r-ecently been bought by Mr PJHo i l lngdale of i n Scotland Unfortunately on its journe y up no rth on a transporter the sunroof blew off and disappeored for eve r s omeWhere near Oxford Long-t lme r eaders of tllis nelolSletter 1J111 recognise of cour s e that th i s isn t the fi rst time this kind of thing has ha ppened $t 111 if tlnyone has e spare sunroof available MrHollingdale can be contacted at Ross-shire Y 6396 has e ngine number 5Ci6 16 7 and i s Maroon ~ilh ~ r ed interior

And l a stly neS o f the other YB picturCd on paRe SO of my book Wegister No49 6 (YB0610 MYW10) was recently exported to Jim Carroll of

Ohio via The Old Star Corage Yorkshire keaders ~ight rec all t hat this car was featured in ~ very inacc urate article in the M G Enthusi a st 1D8gazine Ilany years ago It ytlS Old English White then AutllDlO Red - though maybe not Old English rite originally eh

L ETTERS

Dear J Ohll

Apro pos the firt iele in the newsletter abou t radiator blinds I can confirm thut these were a pro prietary fitting r a ther than an optional factory extra still less a home- made device

r well remember my father htlving one fi t ted to his 19~ Wol s eley ~ight a na I r-e ck on you ore correct in assuming that the 11st s 1n the newsletter were print e d ufter the last Y as produced Ml earlier list wouid allDost c Ort o inly includ o the Y tyroe Altho llRh o ur blind was fitted a round t~~O

wll tl n the t ilr n s no 10nxe( in pl oducl ion th e re wa s no d111iculty in obtrlin i o it f ro Ul whichever s uppl i e r Ie used

1 reme mlJe II worked by a bowde n cable rwming through s teel boils ooIfIiCh locat e d in a slot on the das hboard plate thus giving a wide range of adjus tment It wa s a very effmiddotective device for rapid warning up and the only trou~le we had was when the cable b rOKe and fell on the plugs which s ho rted out ana stopp~ the e ngine

Trevor Aust ln Surrey

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110 rr15 and o ther- saloons -om the 30 sand 40 OP ENIN G WINOSCREEN SEAL R679 8ft WINO UP WINDOW CHANNEL res 6ft DOOR SEAL 2 per door 0 1 $ 19 OOOR SEAL(on door) R579 56 DOOR SEAL(on f r ame) R1452 8 6 CLOTH COVERING for ~bove CL 66 for trim abov e doors etc 21 total for c~r 55ft fRONT SUNROOF SEAL ( X5 S12x12 34 REAR SUN ROOF SEAL S3B6 34 SEAL FOR BOOT [ XSS 1Z x 12 7 6 SEAL FOR SPARE TYRE L[O [X5S12xJ2 6 6 SEAL FOR OUARTERLIGHTS R555 36 REAR SCR EEN 60 WING PIPING - front WP 9 6

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The mG V-Type RegistEr ffOilldcd981

Liverpool Enaland Jst Mooy 1995

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Morgor ~t Cilllo~ha~ ~Custooei Ser vic es) ie i Needh~fIl Road Stol))ar i( t Suf f gt lilt l114 ~ flD

One of our ~cmbers ~John Cochrane oi CoDuiha~ recently told me th~t you hod helped hhl indentify frolll your tlrchvles 0 lDOdern equivalent specifIcation for the 195253 ItG p~int c o lour Silver Streak Grey - F OI E Ilt lt-17 S ~~

There has been RUch debate and d1ssEn tion over the years concerning- the 0ig1no1 6h~des oj ~ny of MGs P~~ l t colour s o f this perJod ltLe pre- B Pi C ) ~s the olig t oltl factor-y records -ere lost many ye ars ago

The lFIajor supplier of car exterior p6int to H C 4t the liM ~s L C l -Delco but I belive tlll1t other manufaCturers supplies laquolight have beel used 1n t tmes of shortage

1 ould be BlQst obUsed if you could pov1de me with moden equivelent ~peci[1c~tlons for tne f ollowing ~ G paint co lours and possibly ol~o a s6mple (colour chip) of euch ir possible) The colours for Whtcn specifc3lion5 ar~ uncertain nr e ~~~L3 D I U E1 izabeth Grey (J 9 47 to 6 49)

Shires Green lt1947 to 6 49) Merchai e rey (1947 to 6 49)

w Ioroon mid- 19~7 to mid - 1949 ) Sequo16 Crea mid-194r to 0 49) Sun Brane ~et~lescent ) (1ll1d-1 9 49 to 19 51) Al~d Gr~n (poSSibly oetales cent J (649 to ]Sgtl )

Regency Red 0948 t o 190 ) I vary (749 to ]950) Cl iPPH 811J~ ( 9lt-6 to 1950 ) Aut = Re-d ~ 1952 to 1953 ) -oodland Ce n ( 19)2 0 1953)

sho ul olso lIke you r v i eo$ ~ l e3 $- 0 the oidely-neld belief tno t l n thos e Otl ys pa in t shaoes ~er e In el y to vor y constaereoly oet-leen one batch ana th e next due t o very lvose- Syec lfl C8llons

l ook ror ~r ve r y much to reCeivln ~y help you can ~lve us in this I Oilf- ccentnl roversia a r lr~

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The mG V-Type RegistEr ffOilldcd981

Liverpool Enaland Jst Mooy 1995

gt3K3t9S

Morgor ~t Cilllo~ha~ ~Custooei Ser vic es) ie i Needh~fIl Road Stol))ar i( t Suf f gt lilt l114 ~ flD

One of our ~cmbers ~John Cochrane oi CoDuiha~ recently told me th~t you hod helped hhl indentify frolll your tlrchvles 0 lDOdern equivalent specifIcation for the 195253 ItG p~int c o lour Silver Streak Grey - F OI E Ilt lt-17 S ~~

There has been RUch debate and d1ssEn tion over the years concerning- the 0ig1no1 6h~des oj ~ny of MGs P~~ l t colour s o f this perJod ltLe pre- B Pi C ) ~s the olig t oltl factor-y records -ere lost many ye ars ago

The lFIajor supplier of car exterior p6int to H C 4t the liM ~s L C l -Delco but I belive tlll1t other manufaCturers supplies laquolight have beel used 1n t tmes of shortage

1 ould be BlQst obUsed if you could pov1de me with moden equivelent ~peci[1c~tlons for tne f ollowing ~ G paint co lours and possibly ol~o a s6mple (colour chip) of euch ir possible) The colours for Whtcn specifc3lion5 ar~ uncertain nr e ~~~L3 D I U E1 izabeth Grey (J 9 47 to 6 49)

Shires Green lt1947 to 6 49) Merchai e rey (1947 to 6 49)

w Ioroon mid- 19~7 to mid - 1949 ) Sequo16 Crea mid-194r to 0 49) Sun Brane ~et~lescent ) (1ll1d-1 9 49 to 19 51) Al~d Gr~n (poSSibly oetales cent J (649 to ]Sgtl )

Regency Red 0948 t o 190 ) I vary (749 to ]950) Cl iPPH 811J~ ( 9lt-6 to 1950 ) Aut = Re-d ~ 1952 to 1953 ) -oodland Ce n ( 19)2 0 1953)

sho ul olso lIke you r v i eo$ ~ l e3 $- 0 the oidely-neld belief tno t l n thos e Otl ys pa in t shaoes ~er e In el y to vor y constaereoly oet-leen one batch ana th e next due t o very lvose- Syec lfl C8llons

l ook ror ~r ve r y much to reCeivln ~y help you can ~lve us in this I Oilf- ccentnl roversia a r lr~

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ampJrrr-Czimolr J tj-dtm Chtmis do MG Y Dil formlide Vrrlandt 010fi zt dm dnmaliampm GrolxrVuossnim isr ojfmsiihdich tea 1947)

The a bove pho t o la s recltotly sent to lIIe by Or Tobias S tuder 01 a nd it shows a s oeciul - oodieo V- Type middottIich 1 pre vio usl y had no knowleage at Althou)h the Cllpt lon Kiles the date os nc irca 1947 th is is probably one M Ue n i ne c hassi s or i y beli eved to have been s upplied by MG in ll48 Three of l hose of cours e would have been f o r the keinbolt amp Chris te cabri o le ts (see hdpLe J of Illy book) and one bec llmeuro a closed coupe by Zagalo (see ]CY7igt But wha t of the o the r four (assuming the Beutler car abo ve t o be a one-off ) Were tney perhaps eclua l1 y bodied as pftrt of the Roge r BarlowJn t e r nationai Mo t ors ceol (see TCYl26gt Or were t hey extra Neinbo lt amp Chr1ste or Beutl er cars or something else ag lll n

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