Federal Department of Home Affairs FDHAFederal Office of Meteorology and Climatology MeteoSwiss
WG 4 activities
Federal Department of Home Affairs FDHAFederal Office of Meteorology and Climatology MeteoSwiss
1. COSMO LEPS
Feasibility study of COSMOLEPS at 7 km (cleps_7)
Motivations: Provide a more detailed description of
mesoscale processes by incresing the horizontal resolution.
Do not lose a “reasonable advantage” against ECMWF EPS, which will go to x=25 km during 2009.
“Keep the pace” with deterministic model (x~ 2-3 km): if the gap in resolutions between deterministic and probabilistic systems is too large, the two systems go for different solutions (that is, they forecast different weather!).
from 10 to 7 km (plus small domain extensions) does not seem a lot
Present systemx = 10 kmz = 40 MLt = 90 sngp = 306x258x40 =
3.157.920fcst range = 132hcost = 640 BU x runelapsed time = 45 min
COSMO-LEPS at 7 km (cleps_7): the answer to forecasters’ dream?
New systemx = 7 kmz = 40 MLt = 72 sngp = 510x405x40 =
8.262.000fcst range = 132hcost = 1925 BU x runelapsed time = 138 min
… cleps_7 is about 3 times more expensive than the present configuration
new computer at ECMWF being installed
Computer resources for each ECMWF member state will increase by a factor of 5 (five) and ….
The dream is possible
COSMO-LEPS 10 kmCOSMO-LEPS 7 km
the grid of cleps_7 would be almost identical to that of COSMO-EU, this making easier and cleaner the use of initial fields provided by DWD (e.g. soil moisture analysis).
• test the use of the Soil Moisture Analysis fields provided by DWD;
• run cleps_7 for ~ 40 days in autumn 2008 and assess the impact;
• within TIGGE-LAM, develop coding of COSMO-LEPS output files in GRIB2 format;
Future plans (2008 and 2009)
• migration to the new machine at ECMWF;
• use a better snow analysis (possibly provided by DWD or Meteoswiss);
• extend the cluster analysis so as to consider not only ECMWF EPS, but also UKMO MOGREPS as global ensemble providing ic’s and bc’s (first tests);
• implement cosmoleps_7;
• gaining from COSMO-SREPS experience, introduce more model perturbations;
• test COSMO-LEPS nested on the under-development ECMWF EDA over MAP D‑PHASE period;
• optimise use of reforecasts + calibration of wind gust;
• support CONSENS + verification
7 COSMO General meeting ¦ Cracow, September 2008Pierre.Eckert[at]meteoswiss.ch
2. Postprocessing
Provide standard interface for internal postprocessingWG6
WG4: Provide standard internal postprocessing methods (i.e. formula catalog)
• Instability indices• Front parameter• Synthetic satellite images• …
Exchange external postprocessing methods• KF, MOS on wind, wind gusts• …
8 COSMO General meeting ¦ Cracow, September 2008Pierre.Eckert[at]meteoswiss.ch
3. Use and interpretation of models
COSMO-2 RADAR
mm/24h
Forecasters: we all started to use WRF for precipitation!
9 COSMO General meeting ¦ Cracow, September 2008Pierre.Eckert[at]meteoswiss.ch
3. Use and interpretation of NWP models
Serious problems with “non-equilibrium convection cases ». Neither the 7km (parametrised convection) nor the 2km (explicit deep convection) predict precipitation correctly (even yes or no).
Who to blame?
• The bad model(s)?• The forecasters overconfident in model(s)?
10 COSMO General meeting ¦ Cracow, September 2008Pierre.Eckert[at]meteoswiss.ch
The problem
1960 1970 1980 1990 2000 2010
Quality of models
Expectations from models
11 COSMO General meeting ¦ Cracow, September 2008Pierre.Eckert[at]meteoswiss.ch
Expectations / promises
• Small grid spacing high resolution forecast• Good (perfect) timing• Desire for sophisticated parameters:
• Surface temperature• Rainfall• Cloudiness• Fog• Wind gusts• …..
Expectations: from forecastersPromises: from modellers
12 COSMO General meeting ¦ Cracow, September 2008Pierre.Eckert[at]meteoswiss.ch
Discussion points
• What is really the quality of a model?• Which model is better?
• In which situation?• For which parameter?• …
• In a convective situation, do we look a the model rainfall pattern or a TS index? Or synoptics?
• How does it compare with a statistical postprocessing on a global model?
• Conditional verification can (must) be used• How can forecasters specify the conditions (weather
classification, stability, season,…)
• How can these informations be communicated?
13 COSMO General meeting ¦ Cracow, September 2008Pierre.Eckert[at]meteoswiss.ch
WG4: Interpretation and applications
Discussion on these topic also started (recently) within SRNWP
• Catalog and exchange of posprocessing methods• Listing and exchange of end-user applications
(agriculture, aviation,…)• Use and interpretation of models?
I am open to any collaborative suggestions for activities in this WG.