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MeetingMinutes:IEEE802.3btDTEPowerviaMDIover4-pairTaskForceNovember,9-12,2015Dallas,Texas,USA

PreparedbyJairoBustosHeredia

NovemberPlenaryMeetingof the IEEE802.3btDTEPowerviaMDIover4-pairTaskForcemeetingconvenedat8:22a.m.,Tuesday,November10,2015byDaveAbramson,802.3btTaskForceCommentEditor.

ADMINISTRATIVEMATTERS

Calltoorder

Mr.DaveAbramson,TaskForceCommentEditorandActingChair,calledthemeetingtoorderat8:22a.m.onbehalfofMr.ChadJones,ChairoftheIEEE802.3btTaskForce,whowastemporarilyunavailable.Mr.DaveAbramsoncalledforintroductionsandaffiliations.Participantsintroducedthemselves.

Mr.DaveAbramsonappointedJairoBustosHerediaactingrecordingsecretaryforthesession.Mr.DaveAbramsonreviewedtheAgenda,focusedonresolvingcommentsondraftD1.4andhearingassociatedcontributions.

Motion#1:MotiontoapproveAgendaforNovember2015TaskForceMeeting(agenda_1115.pdf)

Mover:DaveDwelley Seconder:DylanWalker

Approvedbyvoicevotewithoutopposition(Procedural>50%)November,102015,8:37a.m.Mr.DaveAbramsonintroducedthe“TaskForceDecorum”invitinganyoneattendingfromthepress,includingthosewhowouldrunapublicblogonthismeeting,topointthemselvesout.Therewerenoindications.Mr.DaveAbramsonnotedthatthereshouldbenorecordingorphotographywithoutpermission.Goalsofthemeeting,Reflector&WebandGroundRuleswerereadbyMr.DaveAbramson.HealsoremindsattendeestorecordtheirattendanceintheIMATToolforthesessions,aswellasremindsparticipantstoweartheirbadgesinpublicatalltimes.Mr.Abramsonremindedtheattendeesof inappropriatetopicsthatshouldnotbediscussed.Theseincludedprice,nomatterwhichcurrency.Mr.Abramsonasksifanyonehasnotheardaboutthepatentpolicy.Havingnobodyintheroomwhohas not, Mr. Abramson proceeds to call for potentially essential patents at 8:36 a.m. with noresponsestothecallforpatents.Mr.Abramsonreadsthrough“OtherguidelinesforIEEEWGMeetings”.Mr.AbramsongoesthroughtheoverviewoftheStandardsProcess,indicatingatwhichpointtheWGfindsitself.

Wemakearecessbeing8:45a.m.Thesessionresumesbeing8:50a.m.LIAISONSMr.Abramsonnotestwoliaisonsforthismeeting.

- FromTIATR42:TR42-2015-10-113LiaisontoIEEE802.3btreTSB-184-ADraft3.0- FromISO/IECJTC1SC25toIEEE802.3oncableheating

ADHOCREPORTSTherearenoAdHocReports.Motion#2:ApprovetheMinutesfromOctober2015

Mover:MatthiasWendt Seconder:DanDove

Approvedbyvoicevotewithoutopposition(Procedural>50%),November,102015,8:54a.m.

MeetingMinutes from theOctober Interimmay be found under the following hyperlink: October2015Minutes.

CommentResolutionandPresentationsMr. Abramson then moves on to main business of the meeting, which is comment resolution.Resolution of comments by consensus or motion is listed in the comment database. Proceduralevents and significant motions are below. Please see the comment resolution files posted fordetailedactioninthemeeting.In the case of a presentation associated to a comment, it is noted along with the presenter andcomment number. In the case of a motion, it is recorded along with the comment number (ifapplicable.)EZBucketMr.AbramsonnotedseveralcommentswererequestedoverthereflectortoberemovedfromtheEZbucket.Hethenproposedthefollowingmotion:

Motion #3: Approve the responses for the EZ bucket comments as found in the file

802d3bt_D1p4_EZ_DraftOrder.pdf with the exception of comments: 5, 30, 38, 42, 52, 113, 122,

137,145,211and217

Mover:DaveAbramson Seconder:LennartYseboodtMr.Abramsonasksifthereisanydiscussiononthemotion.Beingnone,votingprocessproceeds.

Yes:22;No:0;Abstain:1(Technical>75%)

Motionpasses.November,102015,8:58a.m.Mr.Abramsongoes throughthecomments removed fromEZbucket.Being9:23a.m., removedEZBucketcommentshavealreadybeenreviewed.Mr.AbramsonmovesontononEZBucketcomments

(106 in total), focusing first on those commentswhich do not have any associated presentations.Thesemaybefoundunderthefollowinghyperlink:nonEZBucketcomments.**********************************************************************************Break:recessat10:13a.m.Sessionresumesat10:32a.m.**********************************************************************************

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Thegroupproceedswithcommentresolution.Mr.AbramsonremindsattendeestologintoIMATToolandrecordtheirattendance.

Mr.YseboodtwouldliketohaveStrawPollforcomment#201(2:04p.m.).ItwasvotedtoeitherleavethetextasitisorchangetoXandY(seecomment#201innonEZBucketcomments)

ResultofStrawPoll:

Asitis:4

ChangetoXandY:8

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Duetoanendlessdiscussiononcomment#205,Mr.Abramsonproposestovoteforacceptingorrejectingit.

Accept:10

Reject:0

Abstain:8

Commentisaccepted.

At3:58p.m.,allnon-presentation-relateddocumentswhichhavenorelationwithStateDiagramwereresolved.Discussionproceedstocommentswithrelatedpresentations.

Presentations

Title:NewClauseforType3&4(yseboodt_1_1115_newclause_v120.pdf)

Presenter:LennartYseboodt

Relatedtocomments:102

Discussion:PresenterpresentshisproposalofsplittingupClause33andhavinganewClauseforTypes3and4andtheirinteractionwithTypes1and2.HedescribedthereasonsforwhichunderhisopinionasplittingoftheClausewouldbebeneficial,aswellasdescribingtheproceduretofollowwhensplitting.

Title:TwoPoEchaptersvs.1:pro’sandcon’s.(darshan_06_1115.pdf).

Presenter:YairDarshan

Relatedtocomments:102

Discussion:PresenterpresentshisproposalofkeepingonlyoneClauseforPoE,whichdescribeallTypes.HeenumeratedthedifferentbenefitsofkeepingoneClause.

StrawPoll(followingChicagorules)takesplaceregardingsplittingorkeepingClause33.

Splitting:11

Keeping:17

Title:LLDPExtensionsII(wendt_1_1115_LLDP_Extensions_v100.pdf)

Presenter:MatthiasWendt

Relatedtocomment:153,155

Mr.AbramsonindicatesthatTaskForceMeetingwillresumeeitherWednesdayat8:30a.m.orwhentheStateMachineAdHocfinishes,whichevercomeslater,butnolaterthan1:00p.m.

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NovemberPlenaryMeetingof the IEEE802.3btDTEPowerviaMDIover4-pairTaskForcemeeting convened at 10:25AM,Wednesday,November 11, 2015 by Chad Jones, 802.3btTaskForceChair

Mr.ChadJones,TaskForceChair,callsbackinsessionat10:25a.m.resumingcommentresolutionwithpresentation-relatedcomments(nonEZBucketcomments).HealsoremindsattendeestologontoIMATToolandrecordattendancefortheday,passingaroundtheattendancesheet.

Mr.AbramsonrecommendsresumingwithcommentsrelatedtoStateDiagram,aswehavejustfinishedtheStateDiagramAdHoc.

At10:26a.m.therewasanewstrawpoll,followingNon-Chicagorules,regardingthesplittingoftheClause:

Split:10

Keep:8

Abstain:3

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Comment#201appearsagain.Mr.Abramsonproceedstoopenavotingprocess:

Accept:10

Reject:5

Abstain:13

Commentisrejected.

At1:46p.m.commentsnotrelatedtopresentationsarefinished.

Title:BaselineforFigure33-14v310(yseboodt_10_1115_Figure_33_14_v310.pdf)


Relatedtocomment:8,40and139

Sessionjumpsoutofcommentresolutiontopresentationsat2:42p.m.

Title:ConductorAmpacity4-pairCommunicationsCables(diminico_1_1115.pdf)

Presenter:ChrisDiMinico

Relatedtocomment:N.A.

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TaskForcecontinueswithpresentations.

Title:BaselineforPtypev110(Yseboodt_6_1115_Ptype_baseline_v110.pdf)


Relatedtocomment:33,47,207,203,206

Votingprocessisopenedforthispresentation,4:20p.m.Adopt“Yseboodt_6_1115_Ptype_baseline_v110.pdf”with45WreplacedwithTBD

Yes:13

No:10

Abstain:11

Votingfails.

Votingprocessforacceptingcomment#207:

Accept:16

Reject:0

Abstain:20

Commentisaccepted.

Title:Proposedresponsetocomment146,147(darshan_07_1115.pdf)



Title:Figure33-1-Rpair_max_PDandRpair_min_PDPDcommonmodeinputeffectiveimpedance(darshan_01_1115.pdf)



Title:AddressingthechangesinTable33-1forsupportingType3and4PSEsInrush(darshan_04_1115Rev009.pdf)


Relatedtocomment:11

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NovemberPlenaryMeetingoftheIEEE802.3btDTEPowerviaMDIover4-pairTaskForcemeetingconvenedat8:00AM,Thursday,November12,2015byChadJones,802.3btTaskForceChair

Mr.ChadJones,TaskForceChair,callsbackinsessionat8:00a.m.

Title:Figure33-17.1–PSE-PDsimplifiedCportinterpretationmodel(darshan_02_1115.pdf)



Title:Updating33.3.7.10perD1.4requirements(darshan_03_1115.pdf)



Comment#102.VotingprocessforsplittingClause33intoseparatesubclauses,withinClause33(seeLennart’sTOCinthereflector.

Split:19

Notsplit:11

Abstain:11

Votingfails.Commentisrejected.

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Mr.DavidLawpresents“UseofPowerPriceIndexinformationinmeasurementTLV”.(law_1_1115.pdf)

AfterMr.Law’spresentation,thesessioncontinueswithcommentresolutionat10:50a.m.

Title:Type3andType4PSEstatediagram–variables,functionsandtimers(walker_1_1115_rev_2.pdf)

Presenter:DylanWalker

Relatedtocomment:n.A.

Mr.ChadJonespresentsanewtimelineproposition,version3

Motion#4:AdopttheApprovedTimelinev3

Mover:LennartYseboodt Seconder:YairDarshan

Approvedbyvoicevotewithoutopposition(Procedural>50%).November,122015,11:23a.m.Motion#5:Adoptcommentresolutionsinthecommentdatabaseandchartertheeditortocreate

D1.5byincorporatingthecommentsforreviewbyNovember30,2015

Mover:DaveAbramson Seconder:MatthiasWendt

Yes:41;No:0;Abstain:0

Motionpasses(Technical>=75%).November,122015,11:28a.m.

Motion#6:MovethattheChairholdsacommentcycleonD1.5startingnolaterthanNovember

30,andendingJanuary10,201611:59p.m.AOE,withresolutionspostedbyJanuary13,2016

M:DaveAbramson S:FredSchindler

Yes:42;No:0;Abstain:0

Motionpasses(Technical>=75%).November12,2015,11:30a.m.

TheChairmovedtoliaisonsat11:34a.m.,andnotedtwoliaisonsforthismeeting,assignedtothegroupinSeptember.TheChairreadstheliaisonstothegroupandtakesonthehomeworktodraftaresponsetotheISO/IECletterforreviewinJanuary.ItisdeemedthattheTIALiaisonletterdoesnotneedaresponse.

Motion#7:Movetoadjournthemeeting

Approvedbyvoicevotewithoutopposition(Procedural>50%).November,122015,11:44a.m.

TheMeetingwasadjournedat11:44a.m.,Thursday,November12,2015.